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[–] argon@lemmy.today -3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

If the vast majority of Americans believed the Democrats to be less evil, the Democrats would have 90% of the vote. If that were the case, the Republicans would move ever further left, perhaps even overtaking the Democrats, until they get a chance at winning again.

The reason the parties are right wing is because the voters are right wing.

That's why we need a communist revolution where everyone will be a happy little comrade

The reason that people don't vote Democrats is the same reason that people won't join your revolution.

If you found enough people to support a revolution, that'd mean you have enough people to change the system by simple voting.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 7 points 13 hours ago

The system will never give us the tools needed to dismantle it my dude

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's not actually how electoral politics works. The two major parties are right wing because that's what the bourgeoisie allows the US to pick from, not because those policies are genuinely popular. Bernie, for example, had policies more supported by both republican and democrat voters than either other candidate. Policies like Medicare for All are overwhelmingly popular.

Revolution isn't won at the ballot box because the electoral system is designed from the outset to only allow pre-approved candidates and parties. Revolution comes from organizing, hence why in areas with stronger union presence government policy is usually more pro-worker, they must capitulate.

Revolution, ie the overthrow of the state, has happened many times before throughout the world and will happen many times more as long as it remains the only actual vector for change.

[–] argon@lemmy.today -5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If left wing policies were truly more popular, why didn't the Democrats win? The voters didn't get Bernie, so if you can't get your ideal option, you instead take the worse of the two remaining ones? Even if voters were only voting for damage reduction, they'd still vote Democrat in that case.

But the Democrats didn't win. The voters don't want damage reduction. The voters want damage.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago

Multiple reasons.

  1. Many people are dissillusioned by the non-impactful electoral system and thus don't vote

  2. Democrats didn't front anything remotely resembling left policies, but instead committed to being "adult" caretakers of Imperialism instead of nakedly like the Republicans promised

  3. Genocide became a source of alienation when it was out in the open, rather than kept hush-hush

  4. The American Proletariat is, ultimately, reactionary, due to being beneficiaries of Imperialism