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How bad are the measles, really? Asking because I was born in the 1st fucking world and never met anyone under a 100 that met someone with it.
Measles: The forgotten killer - John Ross, MD, FIDSA, Contributor; Editorial Advisory Board Member, Harvard Health Publishing
Essentially, when you're infected with measles, your immune system abruptly forgets every pathogen it's ever encountered before – every cold, every bout of flu, every exposure to bacteria or viruses in the environment, every vaccination. The loss is near-total and permanent. Once the measles infection is over, current evidence suggests that your body has to re-learn what's good and what's bad almost from scratch. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211112-the-people-with-immune-amnesia
While that's horrifying, I wonder if it could offer a glimpse into ways to get rid of allergies.
Wow that's nuts.
Yeah, but this doesn't happen if you eat right, work out, get your chakras aligned and get enough vitamin D from sunshine, right?
IKR? This is what it has come to...definitely not serious, BTW.
But the level of Poe's Law has only gotten worse with time, it seems.
Well, that sounds pretty bad, but how contagious is it?
Extremely, iirc. According to wikipedia:
For context the reproductive number (average number of unexposed people a carrier will infect) of the most virulent strains of COVID-19 is 3-8. See: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35262737/ (basic vs effective rate refers to the infectiveness in a naive population vs one which is taking measures and/or has immunity).
This is also all exponential so small increases in R number have big impacts nya.
Pretty sure measles is the one where you can catch it by just walking into a room where someone where an infected person was two hours ago.
Imagine it's third period trig and you caught measles from the kid who was in first period trig without ever having seen him.
It's bad. Afaik measles is the most contagious disease we've ever seen.
Extremely contagious
I appreciate the thought, but I just copied and pasted Dr. Ross's article. Bestof should probably be kept for things produced by community members.
I have no first-hand experience with it either, but understand that in addition to its direct shitty flu-like symptoms and the telltale rash, it has this strange ability to factory reset your immune system so you get to go through all those other diseases your body fought off in the past again.
Vaccinations too.
Y'know...maybe that's why the anti-vaxxers want measles. And want it to make a comeback.
REALLY fucking bad
“In the US, 20 percent of people with measles are typically hospitalized. Five percent develop pneumonia, and up to 3 in 1,000 die of the infection. In rare cases, measles can cause a fatal disease of the central nervous system called Subacute sclerosing panencephalitis, which develops years after infection. Measles also wipes out immune responses to other infections (a phenomenon known as immune amnesia), making people vulnerable to other infectious diseases.”
https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/02/texas-measles-outbreak-climbs-to-48-cases-almost-all-kids-13-hospitalized/
1 in 5 people with measles are hospitalized. Good thing they've got socialized healthcare to cover that!
Oh... wait.
Kills around 3/1000 in the US, BUT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles
Roald Dahl's daughter died from an escalated case of measles. 1962 or something.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/roald-dahl-s-open-letter-about-his-daughter-dying-from-measles-becomes-touchpoint-for-current-us-outbreak-a182446.html
Compared to a lot of terrible shit, less bad? But still bad. You’d have to be young or old to die from it with modern medicine.
So with RFK we're doomed.
Like vaccines!
Sorry, we can't talk about illegal drugs.
If there is a bed available at the hospital, and you can afford the extra expense.
Isn't the measles the one where you can live with modern medicine, but you're still likely to be disfigured possibly even paralyzed in some manner? Or is that the mumps I'm thinking of?
Are you thinking of polio?
If you JUST get measles, you should be fine. The issue is the potential for immune amnesia - meaning the potential for opportunistic infection is incredibly high, as is the potential for that infection to become serious.
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