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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The leftist revolutionary heroes are resisting the people on the right, it is a hard split. The people on the right are shepherds of the US carceral state and imperial murderers

[–] Lila_Uraraka@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 18 hours ago

Last time I checked, that's not how that works, everyone has a wide range of ideals and views. Not 1 or 2, there can be 1 1/2, 1 1/3, 1 1/10000, whatever

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Until we get ranked choice voting, you still need to support them though.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Alternative voting methods have proven useless against capitalist power. Countries like Australia and Japan use them, and it does nothing. It might make candidate stacking a little more expensive, and they have to pay more to advertise their candidates, but that's it.

[–] Itsapersonn@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Alternative voting methods allow for smaller parties, ones who's values may align more with the general population, an actual fighting chance. You gotta admit at some point that having only two realistic choices is a bit of a problem, right?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

In current Polish sejm there is 17 parties and 42 indpendents (on 460 seats). But every single one of them is procapitalist, proimperialist, pro USA, anticommunist. Alternative voting methods do literally nothing by itself.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago

It seems like it should help, but in practice, its been useless. You end up having a greater diversity of candidates and parties, but if capital still stands above the political system and controls it, it just means more capitalist puppets, and more advertising money required to get those preferred puppets elected.

Multi-party Bourgeois parliamentarism is not really any different from the ancient roman imperial senate. Its government by oligarchy / the wealthy entrenched class.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ranked Choice Voting is both too ineffective to make any change, and too difficult to get in the first place. It's the perfect endless carrot on a string, the eternal "just one more lane and traffic will be gone."

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Even if that's so, you'd still need to vote for the people on the right, because voting third party in first past the post is objectively just terrible for everyone with similar goals.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The people on the right work with the Republicans. They aren't resistance. Revolution is a necessity.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works -2 points 9 hours ago

Even so, voting third party or not voting is worse than voting for the people on the right.