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[–] Achird@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

China committed genocide against Uyghurs, independent tribunal rules

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-59595952

UK is pretty far from perfect but to suggest we have “just as dubious morals” as China is categorically wrong.

[–] FredericChopin_@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago

The first actual response with the actual crimes that china commits.

I guess it depends on current morals or the uk of the past. After all we did colonise half the world.

Currently we have some pretty draconian views and removal of a lot of rights. Plus the way the government thinks about ex-pats (sorry I meant immigrants, ex-pat is when we go elsewhere). We invaded Iraq under false pretences.

I just don’t see how we are so hypercritical of one country and any view that questions it is usually (not here,today) condemned as a plant, shill, or Winnie the Pooh himself.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

to suggest we have “just as dubious morals” as China is categorically wrong.

Only if you have a wilfully short memory and/or are wilfully ignorant of the atrocities that came with far reaching British imperialism (never mind completely ignoring the news, we have camps, hundreds of asylum seeking children disappearing, disabled people being quietly killed off, trans people having their rights removed and so on and so forth never mind the "run of the mill" systemic racism sexism queerphobia ableism classism and so on, and pretending these aren't all active stages of fascism is helping normalise it)

With the internet at your fingertips there is no excuse:

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-transatlantic-slave-trade-records/

https://historyindoors.co.uk/britains-dark-past-the-atrocities-of-the-british-empire-and-its-legacy-today/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/worst-atrocities-british-empire-amritsar-boer-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/04/04/the-british-empire-was-much-worse-than-you-realize-caroline-elkinss-legacy-of-violence