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How many millions of that 27 million were shot by their own commissar for retreating, or from being used as cannon fodder in mass human wave attacks, where the hope was the Germans would run out of ammo?
You should do actual historical research instead of believing baseless and ridiculous propaganda. Tell me, where did you hear about any of those claims? Let me guess, Enemy at the Gates?
Blood red snow, by Gunter Koschorrek. ISBN 9780760321980 - Diary extracts from a German soldier who fought on the Eastern front and saw some pretty terrible things.
Not to mention all the stuff coming out of the Ukraine invasion, with Russian conscripts being shot for retreating by their commanders.
This is the first time anyone's been able to produce a source on the matter to me and while I'm skeptical of an account by a single German soldier claiming negative things about the other side, I appreciate you providing it.
This makes the claim less plausible, not more. What are you actually claiming here, that Russians are genetically predisposed to shooting their own soldiers or something? We're talking about completely different governments with completely different people operating in completely different structures and organizations. It seems to me that any accusation like that that's thrown at both the USSR and modern Russia should come under extra scrutiny, because it's more likely that it's just recycled propaganda.
Of course, "Russians are also subhuman and only used human waves". The sacrifice of the tens of millions of the Soviet people towards defeating fascism was to be never forgotten. Yet here we are... While the USSR struggled to fight a major financed power (Nazi Germany was actually in pretty good relations to the US and British businesses, example is Ford), after having a civil war, and trying to scrape by with whatever bullshit the Tsarist Regime has left to them. US tried to stay isolated from the conflict, because they if anything, had better relations with the Nazi Germany than with the Soviet Union.
This comment is disgusting, people died defending not only their republics from fascism, but liberated others. And you boil it all down to " Human Waves", simple historical research will prove you not only wrong, but also racist. (Guess who invented the "Russian human wave" myth?) I wish for you to reconsider your frankly racist opinions...
Lend lease.
Of course no addressing the racism. You just say Lend Lease to show ever more deeply how clueless you are on the eastern front. Lend lease indeed did help the Soviet Union, most of it were trucks that were very much thanked for, as they allowed the soviet union to industrialize faster. Tanks, sadly, were completely underperforming in the eastern European conditions, the tankers of the Soviet Union much preferred the T-34 over any British made tank. Aircraft, was not allied with different concepts of the purpose of it on the battlefield. Western powers were using them to strike deep into the territory, meanwhile the Soviet Union preferred more heavier, but better for the front line, aircraft.
All in all, the role of Lend Lease was not that great. Soviets had their own conditions on the eastern front, with weather and material conditions completely differing to both US and Britain. This lead to the Lend Lease indeed helping the Soviet Union. But probably only to shorter the war by several months, not to win it. It is quite disgusting for you to respond in such a manner. I hope you change as a person.
No need to address it because facts are not racist. Sorry if this caused you to get your knickers in a knot.
Soviet military put solder losses at 8.6 mil vs German military losses of 4.3 military,but from all fronts they fought on.
How would you attribute rhe almost double volume of Soviet military casualties, compared to German losses: bad luck?
The extent of preparedness that each country had is widely different. Plan Barbarossa hit the Soviet Union, which was trying to remain neutral after the civil war busy rebuilding the country, very hard. Only in 43~ had the Soviet Union start producing what the army needed, before that the army was literally not capable to fight the Nazi Germany.
German Tanks, Planes, mortars, and etc. Were all an extreme threat to an army which was at the moment stuck with Mosins. Defense position were stormed with Blitzkrieg, and the majority infantry positions was not prepared for that.
Stalin's paranoid purge of competent officers from the military certainly didn't help.
But the lack of command still doesn't explain the massively excessive deaths in Soviet forces.