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[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes it does? All it would take is a single piece of legislation and a couple of hours for all ISPs to block all traffic to certain IP ranges.

Sure, it doesn't prevent VPNs but it would block 95% of access. The remaining 5% can be blocked through banning VPNs and deep packet inspection, the latter of which doesn't require that much new infrastructure.

[–] Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I said “currently”. Sure, the US could pass legislation that would require ISPs to implement that ability. I said they do not currently have that ability, and you seem to be disagreeing because it is hypothetically possible for the US to build its own great firewall. I do not want to assume your intentions but it appears you may have misinterpreted my message.

What I said is still correct. The point of my comment was that the US should not pass legislation to build a great firewall.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago

Oh, I thought you meant physically unable (for some time) - meaning they'd have to upgrade their router hardware or something which would take a couple of weeks/months.

But yes, right now the US is unable to implement a firewall. Though with the current Supreme Court it might as well decide tomorrow that free speech doesn't extend to communication via electrons or something.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 7 points 1 day ago

Idk why you are downvoted. They have that yes

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Except banning vpns would kill the economy immediately. Pretty much every big corporation is utilizing vpns to facilitate their work from home infrastructure. Hell, often even internally. Not to mention state and federal governments also use them. Suggesting they could do that is a joke.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

From what I understand, in my country OpenVPN and Wireguard work fine within the borders, but the protocols are blocked to foreign servers.

I wasn't talking about the technology behind VPNs. Every single country that "bans VPNs" still uses them commercially to some extent.

What I consider a ban on VPNs is a ban on commercial B2C VPN providers that do not comply with US legislation - meaning they'd allow customers to access banned sites.

Add the fact that pretty much all major payment providers happen to be US companies and I'd wager 99% of "normal" access could be blocked.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll just make legal carveouts for government and commercial use, and go after consumer-facing VPN providers that refuse to comply. For VPN providers based outside the US, they could delist their websites from DNS or block their IPs. They can't stop someone who's determined from finding a way, of course, but just a few simple barriers prevents most people from putting in the effort.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That many carveouts pretty much renders the entire thing pointless.

[–] PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Are you seriously trying to predict the actions of the US federal government using an argument based on logic and common sense?

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

No, I'm trying to predict when their corporate overloads would tell them to sit the fuck down.