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Iran has banned a weightlifter from sports for life and dissolved a sports committee after the athlete greeted an Israeli counterpart on a podium.

Mostafa Rajaei, a veteran weightlifter, finished second in his category in the 2023 World Master Weightlifting Championships in Poland and stood on a podium with an Iranian flag wrapped around him on Saturday.

On anther step of the podium stood Maksim Svirsky from Israel, who finished third.

The two athletes shook hands and took a picture together, which led to the Iran Weightlifting Federation banning Rajaei from all sports for life due to what it called an “unforgivable” transgression.

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[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 76 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Assigning human traits to governments is so weird lol

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are made by people in the end

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, yeah it's obvious, but when people say that X company or country looks weak/happy/pissed, they are refering to the board of directors or congress that are taking the decisions, naming the country instead of the whole sentence is easier.

You can still find it weird ofc, I was just trying to explain why people do it.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please teach me more of your liberal ways, I'm really starting to understand how the world works now.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't get the need of being so passive aggresive with someone trying to hold a conversation. Have a nice day.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you were actually interested in a conversation you would have answered my other replies to you.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am answering them, although those are in a different thread of comments. I have literally 5 comments from your user in my inbox and all of them have been answered.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where are the links to hexbear users saying they are going to vote for Trump?

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

sent in the other comment, I couldn't bother because I had to search for them again, but since you insist.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I'm going to vote for him in multiple states

[–] SphereofWreckening@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some hexbear users really hate being decent when conversing.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SphereofWreckening@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You get what you give shrug-outta-hecks

Same energy

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you think being treated with derision on a niche webforum made by Marxists is equivalent to being killed on live television, then yeah sure. If that's the case though you should logout

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was like a 2/10 on the “being a dick” scale

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, its pretty true. It was very mild sarcasm lol

Are you okay?

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not gonna explain how immediate hostility followed by sarcastic bullshit in response to totally normal behavior is dickish. Just be normal guys.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is the problem people have with Hexbear specifically. You can almost never have a normal conversation with them. The other day someone (who happened to be from hexbear, but I didn't realize it at the time of posting) posted an article and said it said something totally different than the actual contents. I pointed out that they were wrong, and they then went through my entire comment history to pick things out and misrepresented them to make themselves feel better I guess. It was weird, but it's similar to at least half of my interactions with hexbear users.

Thank you for calling them out.

[–] Staines@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's the second person from hexbear that you didn't realise at the time of posting. You're going to have to get better at spotting us if we're so awful.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I generally don't care what instance people are from. I notice hexbear after the fact often because of how bad (aka, not logical) their arguments tend to be. They're usually fallacious at best if they even defend a position, but often they just go on offense on something random because their original position was indefensible.

[–] Staines@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

You're likely getting that response because Hexbear has developed it's own culture of having earnest conversations that are intended to enrich and inform the users taking part in the discussion.

The derisive, dismissive responses are a reaction to someone breaking that etiquette by grandstanding, accusing people of logical fallacies, or resorting to insults: these are things that indicate that the person isn't sincerely interested in trying to understand the person they are speaking to.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

And here I thought I left reddit...

[–] s0ykaf@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

politics for liberals are just a big reality show

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold up, assigning traits to a government made up by people (a group of people) is weird, but assigning traits to a different group of people isn't? I don't really disagree, but you can't agree with the comment above you and agree with your comment also.

[–] s0ykaf@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you can't agree with the comment above you and agree with your comment also.

of course i can; if i couldn't, i wouldn't, but i did it, which is proof that i can do it

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

You can't while being a reasonable, logically consistent person. You can if you argue in bad faith, which I expect but usually people don't take pride in that.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

They're not comprised of robots. Apply synecdoche.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Well governments are made of people...

If you're assigning human traits to the building the government is in, sure it's stupid. Recognizing the traits of the people representing the state is pretty normal though.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago

If they act like children...

[–] cafe@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Governments are made by humans so… I guess human traits carry over