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Trump reportedly complaining about Elon in private — and hates ‘President Musk’ joke
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The problem with this is that Trump acting on his own, or in pure MAGA mode, is even worse than him acting under Musk's influence. I mean I absolutely hate Musk and the bad name he's given EV's, but his influence on Trump is literally my only glimmer of hope that the American vehicle fleet will electrify enough--and quickly enough--to stave off the very worst version of climate catastrophe. Sadly Musk either doesn't seem to give a shit about his own company, or is too busy making the cynical play that in a subsidy-free market Tesla wins due to sheer scale, as long as tariffs keep out cheap import EVs... it wouldn't be the first time he had screwed the EV market at large in order to be the top dog in a smaller luxury niche.
But again, with immigration, Musk and Vivek are the only dissenting voices in a sea of xenophobia, even though, again, I hate the cynical anti-labor motivations behind their advocacy for H1B visas. Still, the alternative is Stephen Miller and full-on white supremacy with no exceptions for smart hard-working brown people.
It absolutely sucks that our glimmer of hope is that the billionaires who used to sound more liberal will feel some weird compulsion to act consistent with their past statements, and it's a very slim chance that this will happen anyways. But given the state of affairs, it's what we've got.
EVs for you and me aren't going to fix global warming
Not even close. This is "turn off lights when you leave the room and don't use plastic straws" level posturing.
While not the biggest contribute to climate change and pollution it's still important for an individual to take as little from the environment and respect it leaving it cleaner then you found it. Turning out the lights and not using plastic straws is like an environmental shopping cart test.
Of course. It doesn't hurt anything and makes good financial sense too. I'm just sick of being told it's the way to stop.climate change by entities that produce exponentially more carbon emissions than I do.
You had me until you compared it to a job someone is paid to do. Nobody is paid to turn off my lights or spit liquid into my mouth.
I think you replied to the wrong comment, if you need some kind of payment to do the right thing for your environment idk what to tell you.
You compared it to shopping cart collection, and I am from the United States, where people are paid at most grocery and big box stores to do that. Nobody is paid to spit liquid into my mouth, which makes shopping cart collection different from a straw.
I don't think you understand the shopping cart test
Of course I do, it's not an advanced concept
If you think having electric vehicles or not during Trump's 4 years is what saving our climate depends on, you need to educate yourself, because that's utterly ridiculous.
I think a burner of musk wrote this
Yeah reads like someone is sitting next to him and giving an example of how you're supposed to run a sock puppet account.
Have you been smoking, and can you share it with the rest of us?
Quite obviously, the Republicans have a coalition and the more fighting that happens within the coalition means the less legislation they can pass. That doesn't mean life will get better, but it might mean that life gets worse more slowly.
Also, I'm confused. Which of the people you mentioned do you think are not racist or xenophobic? The people who want to get rid of all immigration because foreigners are evil criminals? The people who want to keep immigration because it's a way for them to abuse their foreign laborers, who thinks that the Americans are too lazy or too stupid? It sounds like you think the former group is so bad that we should respect the latter group, and I really need whatever you're smoking.
Adrian? that you?
Ultimately, you talked yourself out of your first point, and this is apt, at best Tesla might get a few federal vehicle purchases to go electric rather than ICE, but a trivial volume. Musk doesn't seem to be pushing anything that would broadly elevate the EV industry, and the likely problems for EVs he seems to think would net benefit Tesla anyway
Hardly counts, the recipients of H1B aren't the ones that were ever likely to get the inhuman treatment that Stephen Miller would see dished out. They want an indentured servant class, and H1B is closest to that.