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Interesting if that's really true, given how prison labor being slavery is pretty much how it works otherwise.
I'd love to know how fair-market the wages are, becuase I somehow suspect that:
This reads to me as a feel-good whitewashing piece so fragile white liberals can point to it and go 'See? Prison labor isn't that bad!', but perhaps I'm wrong.
You might want to read the whole article. It provides a lot of supporting evidence including names of inmates and how much money they're making per hour. No, they're not getting all of it. 10% of their pay is taken for "housing" them at the jail,which is BS, but whatever, that's small potatoes compared to having nothing at all.
From the end of the article:
So this particular inmate, who is still incarcerated, is making $25 an hour and has been able to save $30,000 and potentially has an apartment lined up. There's other examples and evidence in the article, but I suggest you read the whole thing.
$25/hr for a project manager seems low, but I don't know what starting salaries in that field look like. I'm guessing there's a pretty hefty "prison discount" here, but that's still awesome. $30k and job experience is a fresh start.
That would be more of a white conservative thing to say. And that’s only if they’re not complaining that the prisoners are avoiding hard labor.
Well, you've got great points.
And, here in the US, they're points that require extra scrutiny of any such situation.
That being said, Norway has done this kind of thing with incredible success, and not just remote work either. So the idea itself is most definitely one that merits a real attempt here too
I just don't see any liberal type (I'm assuming you mean progressives -- just basically the opposite of trumpets) saying American prison labour is good. But they may say that if decent and meaningful labour at union-like wages has been shown to be beneficial for decreasing recidivism, then let's trust the science and get some oversight and assessment going to confirm or refute it.
Most liberals (progressives and classical liberals alike) agree our prison system is awful and probably creates more criminals than it "fixes." And IMO, those that think it's fine aren't actually liberals (in the dictionary definition sense of liberalism).
Maybe somebody should make the argument that random businesses benefiting from prison labor is not only unethical for the prisoner, but also for the people that they owe restitution to.