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I'll note that this is article is concentrated on individual action, not on political action to change policy, which has a far bigger impact than individual action can.

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[-] thbb@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Also, eating industrial food over organic:

First because, per calorie produced, organic farming emits 12 to 40% more green house gases.
(Depending on the study).
Second, because you'll be less healthy and die sooner.

[-] schroedingershat@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This only works if you pretend the organic farm depletes soil carbon and emits NO2 at the same rate as the fertilizer farm, fugitive methane doesn't exist (anything with fossil gas in its upstream suplly chain has its emissions under-reported by a factor of about 3), and that the vast tracts of land poisoned and degraded by fracking are completely fine.

You also have to cherry pick small scale lifestyle blocks for your analysis and assume that the land previously degraded by industrial agriculture could be used further at the same yield.

[-] neanderthal@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I wasn't aware of that. That is bleak.

[-] thbb@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In general, the price of a good in a competitive market is directly tied to its energy cost (either manual or machine labor), which is itself tied to its carbon footprint. If something is more expensive, it is very likely that its production emitted more GHG, or that you're getting scammed.

As an exemple, beef is more expensive than chicken, which is itself more expensive than vegetables.

That's why the best personal action to save on GHG emissions is still to become poorer/reduce your material comfort. Compensate with richer interactions with others and a sense of community.

[-] neanderthal@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

In general, the price of a good in a competitive market is directly tied to its energy cost

Yes. That is an old idea too. This is why doing things the FIRE movement promotes to save money is also beneficial for the environment.

Check this out:

https://www.madfientist.com/vicki-robin-interview/

Go to the transcript and find the text below and read through it. The whole interview is worth listening to IMO.

"There was a World Commission on Environmental Development"

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