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[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

But as simplistic as it sounds that's literally the basic argument here.

The basic argument of this conversation, between the two of us, was that you claimed people were censoring you, and I pointed out that making observations or even judgement calls about what you said doesn't prevent you from saying it. Absolutely no one is stopping you from saying whatever you want. I don't think anyone even tried to. I sure didn't.

If you want to turn it into "well I'm gay so I can say homophobic things without judgement, like black people saying the n-word" you'll have to do it alone because I have no interest in participating in that discussion.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's not homophobic you nitwit.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Calling people you don't like gay as an insult isn't homophobic?

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps the words don't mean what you think they mean.

This is not calling them gay as an insult. If it were saying "they are so gay" meaning "they are so bad" then yes. But this is drawing parallels between their behavior and that of gay people in an ironical way in order to highlight their hypocrisy. And frankly to taunt them.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

So calling people gay in order to taunt them isn't homophobic

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Either you are being disingenuous or you are just not very bright. Either way, have a nice day.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I just don't think "hurry durr they're gay for each other" should be used as an insult, and that doing so is homophobic. Have fun on 4chan.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Uh oh, the person who's been claiming that being gay gives them a free pass to be homophobic for the last 2 hours is asking about my sexuality. I can imagine the "gotcha" you're waiting to spew at me if I say no.

I'm not going to answer that. It shouldn't matter. Bigotry is bigotry regardless of who's doing it, uncle ruckus. And everyone should be calling it out when they see it.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Bigotry is bigotry regardless of who’s doing it

Who gets to decide what is bigotry?

Do you get to tell the subject of said suspected bigotry that they should feel offended?

Do you get to tell black people they are not allowed to use the N word?

Words are power. You better make damned sure you aren't stealing.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Who gets to decide what is bigotry?

Societal norms

Do you get to tell the subject of said suspected bigotry that they should feel offended?

I told you no such thing. I said that you were being homophobic. The listener decides if they want to be offended or not. Judging by this thread, a bunch of people were offended. Good job I guess?

Do you get to tell black people they are not allowed to use the N word?

Nobody told you you weren't allowed to do anything. You started whining that they were when someone pointed out your homophobia, but nobody ever said "don't say that" or "you're not allowed to say that" or anything like that.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Societal norms

You really haven't thought this through, have you?