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[–] kittehx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (3 children)

do you mean of not voting for them?

people don't vote, democrats lose, they think it's because they're too far left and move further to the right. meanwhile republican victories embolden them to push even harder into fascism

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

people don’t vote, democrats lose, they think it’s because they’re too far left and move further to the right.

People vote, Democrats win, they think it's because they moved to the right and so they move further to the right. The sun comes up in the morning and they move further to the right.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 25 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I vote for them, they move right. I don't vote for them, and vote third party, they move right. I join their party and vote in their primary's for progressive candidates, they move right.

It's almost like a bunch of really old, well off, lifetime establishment government folks just actually want to be conservative authoritarians. At BEST they are stuck in a mindset of 1969's ideas of what progressive politics are because that is when they became politicians.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They've obviously lost the thread and who could blame them? They've been locked up with conservatives for 50+ years. That would be enough to have me blow my brains out.

The point is the whole DNC is a rotten corpse. Maybe at one time the candidates had an ideology but now they've fought every fight they're willing to fight and just want to be old and not bothered. Except they don't want to give up their power. Which is frightening. From their perspective they've only made it this far by clenching tight to power for as long as they could and can't imagine a world where they just live at harmony with people around them. They lose all their clout. No one needs them anymore and they rot to nothing. That's the fear at least.

Everyday I'm more convinced the thing that got us where we are is American hyper competitive mentality. We have to work endlessly. We have to score the best grades. We have to make the most money.

Why can't we just take pride in living peacefully. This is what all the Trumpers are upset about, honestly. They want to be able to live in their podunk town. Doing their unimportant job. Liking the same things their mommy and daddy liked and be unbothered. Culturally that's fucked and we've seen why but idealistically it's fine. We need unimportant people to do unimportant things and be more or less just like the ones who came before. So why not reward it?

I'm rambling.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not an American but I would argue that Biden's resignation was in part due to people threatening to not vote. This wasn't a move to the left but organized threats of not voting can make a difference.

Personally, I would vote for the lesser evil unless there was some kind of organized movement. Where I live, we have more than 2 evils to choose from and I choose the smallest of them.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Biden was incapable of clearly communicating verbally for 2 hours straight in a debate. I'd argue that Biden stayed in as long as he did to enable them to feel empowered to force another Kamala on us rather than having to deal with a Warren, Sanders or even a Buttigieg winning the Primary. Kamala was 6th in line in the Primary when she dropped out in 2020.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 days ago