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Ok, I am not supporting bestiality here. But, I just came to know about a Dogxim, a dog fox hybrid and I had known for a long time that horses and donkeys can breed (to produce a mule). So, I was just curious, can humans breed with any other animals closely related to us?

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 139 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Homo sapiens are the last remaining species of hominina. Our closest remaining relatives, the Pan (chimpanzees and bonobos) diverged at least 6.5 million years ago. Though there is some evidence early hominina may have interbred with pan after the divergence as recently as 4 mya.

This is more recent than dogs and foxes by a long way, and about the same as donkeys and horses. That, plus chromosomal analysis and some other research suggests it could be possible for a human and chimp or bonobo to interbreed, though likely not create fertile offspring. However, there has never been a confirmed case of this occurring, despite multiple claims.

Edit: useful articles:

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Because of that one caveman, we are all shamed forever.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 28 points 6 days ago

We’re talking way earlier than cavemen. The last interbreeding between our ancestors and chimps’ ancestors happened (using the most recent estimate I could find) a million years before the least recent evidence of the use of any stone tools. This is not a human that would be recognisable at all as a human.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

Welp, now I am curious. There are like 10 billion of us, this can't not happen.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Excellent answer!

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Pretty sure that we can't breed with chimps and generate a fertile offspring due the mismatch on the number of chromosomes.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah fertile offspring is almost entirely off the table here from what I can see.

Doesn't HIV come from chimps too? Not knowing too much about it, I would imagine that presents some challenges.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So after reading the wiki, I believe the most likely successful attempt will be to mate a human with downe syndrome, with a chimpanzee. Let's get on this. I wanna see some atrocities of nature.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Umm, I don't think that's how it works.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The wiki says it's hard with chimps because we have one less chromosome than chimps. Down syndrome: "all my homes got extra chromies". They have an extra chromosome. Ergo: down syndrome + chimp = hybrid chimpmanzee.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think that's how chromosomes work

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Thats how down syndrome works. Look it up yourself, smart guy. People with down syndrome have 47 chromosomes instead of 46. Chimps have 48, so down syndrome people are one closer, by mutation. That means just one more mutation and we're all set.

Now start work on making a monkeyboy.

[–] Mambert@beehaw.org 2 points 4 days ago

An odd pair of chromosomes makes it harder than being off by a pair. Mules are unbreedable due to their odd number of chromosomes.

We have successfully bred with species further apart, including an alpaca and a llama.

So yes all the science points to it being possible with humans, but ethically we can't possibly do that.

And it is not one more mutation to add an extra chromosome. It's a loooot more.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are you really this fucking thick? There's more to genetic compatibility than chromosome count. Otherwise we'd be seeing human–Reeves's muntjac hybrids. Or chimp-gorilla.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Are you seriously this fucking thick? You think I've been serious? Lol

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Oh, so you were just being a dick for the sake of being a dick? That's worse bro.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How is it being a dick? Because you got mad?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because it compares people with down syndrome to chimpanzees, and because it took a good faith serious discussion and made a mockery of it.

Bro, humans are compared to chimpanzees. DNA wise were almost a banana as well. You're getting butthurt on anothers behalf because of the fact that they have an extra chromosome? That's literally what down syndrome is.

[–] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Okay, let's make this simple enough for you. Pictures, everybody. Pictures for the man with the mind of a sloth. Exhibit A. Exhibit B.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ah yes. And the man monkey in the middle! I bet that's what Bigfoot is.