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[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 16 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

Well, they exist. Probably because a lot of the harrasment goes on in DMs or in followers only posts (or instances block them or they do dogwhistles etc).

Yes, but people are, regardless, still awful and so it's not a place me or many others would recommend precisely because not many care enough to do anything about it. Which is exactly why I try to.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 24 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

Yeah. It's pretty telling that my entire time on Mastodon has been punctuated by black users complaining about how much racism they're exposed to on the network, and everyone else going "I don't see any racism!"

Like, ok, maybe you don't. I don't. I'm as white as snow, and don't post about my experiences as a racialized person (not being one, and all). But it's pretty clear, just from seeing the same exchange over and over again, that racialized people are experiencing something I'm not, and them expressing as much has Defenders of the Faith circling wagons every time it comes up.

Mastodon being a little more complicated than Twitter wouldn't have been a major blocker to communities coming over. "Hey, join this site", rather than "join Mastodon!" is all you need. But no one's going to be telling black folks, or any other community, to come on over if the social atmosphere is at least as toxic as where they're coming from.

Now with another alternative, Mastodon also needs to be better than "not being Twitter". And the people who are there already seem to have zero interest in doing that.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't use Mastodon so I have no idea what's going on, but I am curious what y'all in this thread would want Mastodon to do.

Can't you set up an instance and moderate it to your preference like other federation style apps?

What specific features are you saying are needed to make Mastodon more usable for any community that might find itself feeling less than welcome?

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

People have had standing requests, and even PRs, for features for years. Many of them are for exact kinds of things Bluesky has implemented. Some have been for similar features but at the server level.

The requests have gone unheard, the PRs have been ignored. So, what I'd have Mastodon do is listen to those requesting better self-safety features, or hurry up and die so development team that actually gives a shit can gain some traction.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

Can you point me at them? Which ones?

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

I mean tools help somewhat but really the solution is on a social level, for people to start giving a shit.

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