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[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 121 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I like how the original OP mention in passing that Reddit is bad for privacy.

Like, no shit? How can a privacy community be even remotedly healthy in such an environment?

It's like having a club for how to avoid the police within a prison, regulated by the guards.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 55 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Browsing reddit while using a VPN is verboten.

Good grief I despise that smug, winking snoo with a effing fedora that goes along with the error page.

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah, seems like they really don't want site visits or something! oh well, its cooler here.

[–] DrDystopia@lemy.lol 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Untraceable visitors are worth nothing. From a cynical point of view, better off without them.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

A lot of reddit's most popular content is stuff like TrueOffMyChest from throwaway accounts. Robust privacy protection would result in more of those posts, and more traffic overall, but reddit doesn't care about making the site work, they've dedicated themselves to milking the individual users for all they're worth. It's a bit like killing the goose that lays the golden eggs. Because look, now we're all here, generating content on a competing platform

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

woah there pardner!

[–] Laser@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Better than me getting shadow banned from reddit for using one, I appealed back then

[–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

first time? I was banned from reddit entirely 8 times

[–] Laser@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Were you banned or shadow banned?

I was only shadow banned once, however never banned normally.

[–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

most of the times i got notified of the ban.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

wut? I VPN all the time (for niche stuff Lemmy's not there yet with).

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 2 points 1 month ago

I could’ve written a Tailscale App Connector to route it through the home connection, but I ended up blocking their domains outright and writing some CSS rules to hide Reddit from SearXNG results. It’s better than that annoying page.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reddit was open source until 2017, and one of the founders was Aaron Schwartz. So it didn't look like that for a long time.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I guess we all know it, since we are interested in Privacy and not clueless enough to be on Reddit (anymore?).

The degeneration from a "safe" place to what it is now is what makes it particoularly egregious a place to avoid for anybody serious about privacy...

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

2017 was 7 year ago, Aaron died 11 years ago. There are a lot younger users who can't remember these things.

Let's see a 20 years old university student was 13 when the source was closed down, I think it's not easy to find a 13 years old who is familiar with such legal things.

[–] forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Reddit basically has a completely new userbase. It's not only by age of user. I don't think people have really appreciated the rate of attrition has been near total. The old userbase of tech savvy STEM college degree holders have effectively abandoned the platform.

They've managed to sell the platform on a whole new set of users. So it looks like the site has kept on plugging along. But really reddit has successfully relaunched itself. Based on the idiosyncratic lingo I see most often. The bulk of users came from Facebook. They don't know the traditional redditisms so they use vernacular from the platforms they've migrated from.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 7 points 1 month ago

No but it's much easier to find the 20 years old student interested in privacy that realyze right now that reddit is not open source...

[–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

in 2017 my biggest concerns were that whether i can play PS3 with broken hand or not (i could)

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

While I hate Reddit isn’t the fediverse basically horrible for privacy? It’s super easy to see everyone’s posts and IP addresses no? I thought anyone could basically download everything with very little effort and do whatever they want with it.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep. Still going in a better direction than Reddit though.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yea, that is a good thing, nobody owns the info like this, it is public domain, as a place like this should be, in my opinion.

If you want private communities, I think matrix spaces are a great independent solution.

[–] notprogrammer@programming.dev 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you only talk about privacy on already private platforms, it will become a circlejerk in no time. You need to tell people who have no interest/experience in online privacy about it so you can further the cause. This is similar to why the FSF is on Twitter/X.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess having something in there is good but it's inherently an issue when the topic at hand is acting outside survelliance.

Let's say, for example, things escalate and reddit get fully weaponized for the benefit of one side, and they start pushing for known compromised VPNs. How can you fight that if pepole got into the habit of trusting such platform?

[–] notprogrammer@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You tell them Reddit is not trustworthy and they should move out, of course. I am not denying that. I am saying the r/privacy community should not be dead because Reddit is a popular platform whether you like it or not, and people need to be informed about their right to privacy even on a known hostile platform.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago

We can agree to agree.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

OP is the original OP. Probably. Reddit poster's name is the same as the Lemmy poster's name.