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In a statement, the council rationalized the reduction by stating they wanted to reduce the content load on students in light of the Covid-19 pandemic. On June 1, India cut a slew of foundational topics from tenth grade textbooks, including the periodic table of elements, Darwin's theory of evolution, the Pythagorean theorem, sources of energy, sustainable management of natural resources and contribution of agriculture to the national economy, among others. These changes effectively block a major swath of Indian students from exposure to evolution through textbooks, because tenth grade is the last year mandatory science classes are offered in Indian schools.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/evolution-periodic-table-to-stay-part-of-class-9-10-syllabus/articleshow/101058188.cms

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[–] pocker_machine@lemmy.world 112 points 1 month ago (12 children)

PEOPLE FALLING FOR THIS SHIT AGAIN IS INSANE !

They haven't removed the Pythagorean theorem, it seems to be taught in lower grades. This is Pythagorean theorem for the similarity of triangles, which was dropped to remove burden during pandemic.

Periodic tables and evolution are moved to one or two grade higher. NOT DROPPED.

There you go. Now you have the facts. Enjoy the rest of your day 🫡

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What the hell are you talking about!? It says in the article that these three subjects have been moved out of mandatory learning.

Meaning that most Indian students won't understand the basic principles of evolution or the most simple understanding of the composition of elements.

Not considering either of these three to be essential mandatory learning is insane.

[–] pocker_machine@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The syllabus includes of related topics way before in 6th or 7th grade. Some of them are often repeated (may be even intentionally). They learn about elements and their composition in 7th or 8th grade. After having all that, if student is inclined to it they learn more in 11th and 12th grades. Most of students follow up to 12th in India. If you are so concerned go check the textbooks yourself - https://ncert.nic.in/textbook.php

Although I don’t suppose most people won’t do that because why put the effort to understand things when you can spew dumb opinions around ?

The reason the topics were rationalised to improve remote learning and reduce burden on students during exams in a country where suicide rates among students due to exams and societal pressures is a real concern.

The way people have been reacting to this is as if students coming out of school are dumb fucks with no scientific knowledge. I bet the ones commenting here doesn’t even know half of what those students know.

[–] Murvel@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Again, quoting the article, it says that many students (although maybe not most) will graduate without an understanding of these three subjects.

How can that be considered a positive, and what's even more; acceptable?!

[–] Voltage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

10th grade is mandatory but 90% of students who studied till 10th WILL study 11th and 12th. In 10th grade they WILL learn pythagoras theorem periodic table and evolution, just not as deep into it as it used to.

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It says in the post that 10th grade is the last mandatory grade, so this means many students will miss out on learning about evolution, no?

[–] batshit@lemmings.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Correct. After 10th grade, you can choose a "stream" (course). You can choose between science, commerce, or humanities. What's worse is that each stream has multiple branches, and biology is not included in all the branches. So if you were to choose computer science branch in the science stream, you will not take any biology classes.

So a vast majority of students would never learn about some very important scientific concepts if this was implemented, but I'm not sure if they reversed this decision or not.

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 31 points 1 month ago

Evolution is dropped from mandatory and is only taught to students who opt to learn biology, after high school.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These changes effectively block a major swath of Indian students from exposure to evolution through textbooks, because tenth grade is the last year mandatory science classes are offered in Indian schools.

I know nothing of India's education system. Does this mean it's in an optional class now or is this totally wrong?

[–] clot27@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Its totally correct, 10th is last mandatory grade, after that you can choose which subject you wanna study for 11th and 12th

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] portuga@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Kids in india in a few years: the sum of the square of the cathedrals equals the hypothesis

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

as said below, that’s the last mandatory grade

This is Pythagorean theorem for the similarity of triangles

could you source that?

[–] sag@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Source: Me and my little cousin.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

PEOPLE FALLING FOR THIS SHIT AGAIN IS INSANE

  • Me, everyday, reading any news lately.
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's what the article says and nothing about the title conflicts with it. These are all pretty basic concepts that should be taught early.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago

Also 'cuz I'd like to see how they could progress in the curricula without Pythagoras and the periodic table.