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The team behind menstrual health and period tracking app Clue has said it will not disclose users' data to American authorities, following Donald Trump's reelection.

The message comes in response to concerns that during Trump's second presidency, abortion bans that followed the overturn of Roe v. Wade in 2022 will worsen and states will attempt to increase menstrual surveillance in order to further restrict access to terminations.

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[–] ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world 326 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Research conducted by the Mozilla Foundation indicates that the app referred to in the article, Clue, gathers extensive information and shares certain data with third parties for advertising, marketing, and research reasons.

Here are some menstruation tracking apps that are open-source and prioritize user privacy by keeping your data stored locally on your device:

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 122 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So the government just needs to acquire this data from one of those third parties if it wants it.

[–] ganymede@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

so what they're really saying is they won't give it away for free

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Where is Mark Zuckerberg when you need something to "accidentally" get leaked after billions of dollars are spent.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

They do claim to not share any medical data with third parties though. See other comments for source.

I wouldn't trust them either way...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 month ago

You don't know how fascism works, do you?

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Drip doesn't save anything to the cloud, it's all local to your device. I can't speak to the others.

Which does mean one has to backup and manually move your tracking history to a new device. Guess who forgot to do that 😂

[–] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good idea is to use something like Syncthing to copy data between your phone and another device like a laptop or another phone. This depends on the app, for Drip you have to manually export the data yourself on a regular basis.

Another useful idea is if you have an old phone lying around get it connected via Syncthing and back up everything to it. If your current phone dies or is lost you can switch back immediately, a hot backup. If you have root on your device you can use NeoBackup to schedule backups of the data into a folder Syncthing can access and send to backup locations, say a home computer or spare device.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

God I wish I could learn more about this shit.

For all of the Linux and FOSS nerds on Lemmy, I don't think I've seen one make a guide on how to have good digital stewardship of oneself. Syncthing sounds freaking awesome. Still feel like there's a barrier to entry for me though

[–] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What OS do you use? Windows, Mac, Linux? And same for your phone? Android? If so, you should be able to get it set up on your desktop and phone.

First, get it installed on your desktop. For windows and mac go to the Syncthing download page and grab the installer. On Linux you will find install instructing below, but basically use your package manager to install syncthing.

Once it is installed you can start it up and it will open a GUI, most likely through your web browser (probably 127.0.0.1:8384 or similar). From here you will have your Syncthing interface for your computer set up, so on to the phone.

On your phone install syncthing from whichever store you use, fdroid is my favourite. Once installed open it and you should have an option to add another device. You can use this to scan the QR code on your computer Syncthing interface.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Currently on Windows 11 (yuck) and have a Galaxy S23.

Next devices I'm looking at are a Framework laptop and Fairphone.

The QR code sounds super easy which is a good sign. I guess most of my complaints rest with what a full FOSS and pro-privacy cyber-system would look like overall. I come from a Windows world so I have those household names stuck in my head, like Word, Outlook, etc. I guess I'm really looking for a guide that has a 1:1 for the entire OS from Windows to Linux, and maybe more if it improves people's lives. Thinking Jellyfin and Bitwarden and all those purpose-driven applications.

At this point I don't know what I don't know, and I just wish that some of the awesome devs on Lemmy would post a guide to all of this, soup to nuts style. Maybe one day

[–] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I think piecemeal is a good way to go. Switch from MS Office to LibreOffice, from iOS to android, from Photoshop to Krita, then go to dual booting Linux (probably Mint or similar) with Windows, learn more using both, find what things you reboot to Windows for, find solutions for those using Wine and alternative software, get used to solving problems in Linux land and learn the tools. Once you are comfortable with a mix of both get rid of what you can, use Windows less and less, try CalyxOS or Graphene for your phone if possible, keep making steps. Each step makes progress, and imperfect solutions are a better starting point for finding better solutions.

That said, for the earliest steps a virtual machine is an amazing tool, as is an old laptop. You can learn to solve problems on virtual or real hardware without making your life harder then inch closer to freedom. I've been using Linux since 2006 and honestly it has been a constant learning process. The first year was mostly VM learning, then an accidental install on my external HDD taught me about hubris and data protection. Since then I have kept moving towards more open hardware and software one step at a time. Getting started is the key, nothing teaches as well as trying.

[–] KrapKake@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

It would be nice if it did have some automatic backup solution. Backup options could be something like Nextcloud, or some local server. Maybe even android backup but the data has to be encrypted with a password and be an opt in feature.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The only way to protect data is to not gather it.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 month ago

Having your own data can be incredibly useful and valuable, the trick is protecting that data so that nefarious actors can't use it.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but tracking period data can be very helpful for people. For a threat model of abortion criminalisation (or maybe trans healthcare criminalisation with treatments stopping periods, or really any kind of restrictions on medical autonomy), encryption at rest of locally stored period data is perfectly sufficient. They are not going to send military intelligence agencies after a random person having an abortion. It is actually a relatively low threat model, like equivalent to buying drugs online or something like that.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mostly mean having data stored in a centralized database owned by a corporation. Since even if it’s encrypted you’re just one warrant away from the data being handed over.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

If only the user has the key then there's no real concern with the data being handed over

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

I hadn't seen this comment, thanks for making it.

[–] DollarColonial@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)