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I was gonna title this "And here I sit so patiently waiting to find out what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice" and then write "Stuck inside of America with the fascism blues again" here, but I'm not sure if that comes off like gloating and that's honestly the last thing I want to do this morning.

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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It would have to go through congress, which wouldn’t approve it, so it would be a lie.

The US president is probably the single most powerful position in the world between explicit powers and people who serve at his pleasure and can be replaced at will, and undefined powers that that extend as far as anyone is able to stop them, as we saw under Trump. If they just flagrantly broke the law and kept doing it until the SCOTUS and others actually stopped them, the dems would be far more popular than just throwing their hands up and saying "better things aren't possible.

There's a lot of indirect ways they can get what they want done, whether it means appointing an AG and other department heads who will punish people who don't go along or using the military's vast legal protections and resources.

They told people “I won’t do mass deportations

  1. That's not saying how you'll improve people's immediate conditions, just that trump will make them worse

  2. You can't credibly say that when Biden deported more people than Trump.

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they just flagrantly broke the law and kept doing it until the SCOTUS and others actually stopped them, the dems would be far more popular than just throwing their hands up and saying "better things aren't possible.

This is basically what FDR did with a lot of his social and work programs during his presidency. He'd establish an agency or authority or whatever, regardless of the legality, and by the time the court's or whoever made the decision to close it, they'd have 5 others going simultaneously, and/or they'd make another one. And the process would start all over again.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yup. The nice thing about policy that helps everyone is that it's incredibly unpopular to kill. Biden could have burned student debt in the most visible way possible, and then dared the SCOTUS to create new debt. If they took the bait, you'd have 46.2 million people ready to vote for anyone who promises to expand the SCOTUS.