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[–] BonerMan@ani.social -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Yes. Not Samsung but Taiwan. It would force the us to not tiptoe around China.

Also Intel is one of many, maybe the biggest name but for a Long time not the biggest player at all.

Ever read the name AMD? The ones actually behind x86 64bit and many other things?

Nvidia (even though they invest to much into a double that will pop)

ARM?

Texas instruments?

Bosh?

There is more than enough without intel.

*Apple

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[A day after mainland China invades Taiwan]

"Fuck, why did graphics cards quintuple in price?"

[–] BonerMan@ani.social 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah guess what, thats why Taiwan needs protection and China enough pressure to not even think about it. Wich can only be achieved by being important to the world.

Most of the companies you’re mentioning do not have their own chip foundries. The only - and I do mean only - companies that have working lithography lines to support bleeding edge chips at massive scale are Samsung, TSMC, and Intel. Several other companies are investing in eventually gaining that capability, but right now, thats it. And these things take a LONG time to spin up and iron out the issues.

TL;DR: the problem is how few companies actually MAKE the chips, not how many companies DESIGN them.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I didn't think any of those companies did any manufacturing. Are we talking about the same thing? My understanding was there was only three names in manufacturing (the ones I mentioned)

What do you mean by it would force us not to tiptoe around China?

On that note, what do you think about Trump's policy against Huawei when he was president? I'm inclined to think it's a good thing despite it not being something Obama (or Clinton or Biden/Harris) would do

[–] azdle@news.idlestate.org 5 points 1 month ago

I didn’t think any of those companies did any manufacturing.

They don't. Well, TI does but not anywhere near the the node size of the three you mentioned: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/technology_node

[–] BonerMan@ani.social -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

By that definition Intel isn't manufacturing either, its foxcon that manufacturers for them.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Huh Intel has its own fabs.