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One California City Wants to Get Rid of Gas | Residents of liberal Berkeley will get to vote on a second attempt to curb use of the fuel in buildings. (www.bloomberg.com)
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For context, having it in your house seems to knock a couple years off your life expectancy

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[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It means running new higher-amperage electrical connections to them.

I'm willing to put up with slightly higher prices if it means people live longer as a result.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Commercial kitchens use natural gas. Period.

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Yawn. Humans have been cooking long before natural gas became popular and will keep cooking long after we finally stop burning fossil fuels. We have electric ovens, induction cooktops/griddles, we can make hot water, steam, etc with electricity just fine. Even electric pizza ovens seem to be better.

Goodbye, Gas. The Future of New York City’s Pizza Is Electric. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/30/dining/new-york-pizza-electric-ovens.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You should probably go tell the millions of commercial kitchens in places that don’t have natural gas that they don’t exist then.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now you’re just making shit up.

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You realize that natural gas distribution networks don’t exist everywhere and that even in the highly built up US they tend to only serve cities, towns, and nearby suburbs, right? Everywhere else uses propane or electric.