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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Go to school in the south, spend months on the minutiae of 1830s trade law and constitutional construction of enumerated powers, then WHOOP! We're in 1914, being dragged in to WW1 against our will!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's crazy it misses out all of the important bits. In the 1830s the United States was on the international stage a relative backwater by the first world war it was a major superpower. Some interesting stuff happened in the middle of those two time periods to make that switch.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, but those periods didn't involve them much, they felt sidelined and resentful so they don't matter.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I went to (an otherwise okay, but still a catholic) school in Connecticut and I learned that we won the Vietnam War.

My dad was the right age, but neither he, nor his close family members or friends (nor my mother’s) were drafted. My friends’ parents were younger, so I didn’t personally know any Vietnam vets well enough for them to talk to me about it, and I didn’t think to doubt it. I didn’t find out until college (it was rightfully embarrassing, I was a libertarian arguing for the USA’s right to “bring democracy” to Iraq).

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We’re in 1914, being dragged in to WW1 against our will!

Honestly, a bit of a canard given how much of a Dixiecrat eugenics loving imperialist shit Woodrow Wilson was.

Neo-Confederates bit hard on the Zimmerman Telegram and were some of the most enthusiastic WW1 hawks.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Zimmerman telegram was the story that Germany was trying to convince Mexico to attack the US right? I'm deep in my memory for this one lol

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

That's the story, yes. There are a number of still-classified documents surrounding the Zimmerman Telegram that raise a number of questions about how it was obtained and how well it was received.