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I mean, you take one look at Greek statues and Roman busts and you realize that people figured how to aim for realism, at least when it came to the human body and faces, over 2000 years ago.

Yet, unlike sculpture, paintings and drawings remained, uh, "immature" for centuries afterwards (to my limited knowledge, it was the Italian Renaissance that started making realistic paintings). Why?

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

THE PROPER TOOLS.

YOU try scrawling on a cave wall with nothing but the charcoaled end of a stick you pulled out of a fire and see how well you can draw with that kind of medium and tools.

As technology progressed, so did the tools used.

Michelangelo was using a fresco technique painting onto still wet plaster and used egg whites or glue made from animals to help the paint stick. He used a variety of brushes, not just a charcoal stick.

Further, just something as simple as a variety of colors took hundreds of years of technological advancement to achieve.

Don't underestimate the need for quality tools!

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also the time needed to perfect that skill wouldn't have been available that far back. If you're needing to spend the bulk of your time hunting/gathering food and other forms of basic survival I don't think you'd have the hours every evening to work on your shading techniques.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Excellent point, as others have astutely pointed out, a love of the arts is often cultural, and most artists need essentially a set of people who love their art and buy it or they will be a "starving artist." So you also need a society that appreciates art enough to let certain people have all that time.

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

something as simple as a variety of colors took hundreds of years of technological advancement

If anyone is looking for a rabbit hole to go down, the history of pigments is a great one.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Exactly. Taking in the expansive view before you is nice, but the giants we stand upon, stable societies and technological advancements, are worth a glance or two.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It’s true. Though not a complete answer, because realism lagged behind the tools needed for it. And it’s interesting how once one person can do it, suddenly everyone can do it. That says something shit is as a species. We can only do what we’re able to imagine? And as soon as we see someone do it, that barrier is gone?