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Bad source for sure though there is ample evidence (you can watch videos of it) of quite large-scale execution and torture of PoWs among Russian and Wagner troops. It has happened on both sides but certainly far more on the Russian side...
Can you give a credible source to this claim?
There has been no quantitative data released but based on solid reporting in re-taken areas e.g., Bucha it is evident that there were large-scale arbitrary executions.
By contrast, Russian media has presented little evidence of large-scale executions. There have been individual cases but there is no evidence to suggest it is as systemic.
While you are right to critique my claim, which I should not have made with such certainty perhaps, one can collate the available evidence and make a claim with reasonable-albeit not total-confidence. If Russia did have evidence of large-scale execution of PoWs, they'd obviously put it in their own friendly media outlets + it would be in Russian Telegrams.
Wasn't Bucha the place that had pictures of bodies with the white armbands (Russian collaborators in occupied territories) and Russian ration packs in the background and everyone was like "Russia did this!"
Yep, the massacre was probably from Ukraine's side
How much Russian do you speak?
I have a few friends who do that I trust in this matter + I follow a lot of people on both sides of the war (support-wise) who do speak Russian and who report it into English. While this doesn't give as good a view as someone who actually speaks Russian, it still provides a good view overall and I haven't had any reason to doubt my conclusions on this matter accordingly.
Of course, you are under no obligation to believe me, and I obviously wont take offence or whatever if you disagree, it's just what I believe based on the evidence I have collated. It's impossible to be certain until proper quantitative data is put together in a good study, though.
Yeah I'm going to wait until the war is done, because this all seems highly anecdotal. Thanks for being intellectually honest about where you're coming from though.
That's fully understandable and probably the better take tbh. If I was in social science mode I'd agree with you, this is just my rough vibe from collating stuff so I fully appreciate that.
hey, I have that on my face