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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20911849

By Umar A Farooq in Washington
Published date: 30 September 2024 11:01 BST

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[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I'm going to be blunt and straightforward about this.

According to Wikipedia, Islam is the third largest religion at 1.1% at about 3.5 million people. Compared at Judaism is at 2.07% at about 7.5 million people.

On the issue of supporting Israel for their horrible acts on the regions surrounding them, morality aside and by just looking at the numbers, if you get 100% of the Muslim American support, you would need about 2 million Jewish Americans to break even.

Which I think is more doable than ignoring the Muslim American population and hoping 47% of the Jewish American vote offsets the 3.5 million Muslim American vote.

Also if they have to appease the corrupt war companies that fund the party, just send the weapons to Ukraine.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Remember that many of those Jewish Americans are either anti-zionists or don't care either way. Meanwhile almost every single Muslim American cares about the issue and will likely vote Democrat if they do anything but actively cooperate with genocide.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago

100%, Dems are throwing the election.

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If just going by votes, it makes me wonder what is holding the Democrats back from getting the Islamic American voters.

It can't be just be the war companies, they can just send those arms to Ukraine.

Hundreds of humanitarians and journalists were murdered in Gaza. That should be enough not to support them.

[–] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Israel serves a geopolitical purpose destabilizing the Middle East and suppressing development of rival countries (e.g. assassinating that nuclear physicist in Iran).

Take it from Biden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLNCcLfIkM

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

A lot of Israeli money. AIPAC is just the most well known.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

Israel is a country-sized military base that mostly pays for itself, and has one of the best intelligence agencies in the world (or maybe their rivals are just that bad). If Israel didn't exist the Middle East would probably be much more united by now under the leadership of one or two regional powers instead of everyone but Iran and Syria being a US proxy.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I saw a poll 3~6 months ago finding israel is ranked like the 4th issue for American Jews. The overwhelming majority don't care about it enough to change their vote for it. They certainly won't vote for Trump over a Democrat arms embargo on israel.

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

That's interesting and happy to hear that.

Considering that the KKK endorsed Trump, their only option is either voting third party or not voting if they decide not to vote Democrat.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You can't just look at the total numbers and %'s because not every vote has equal weight, the way the electoral college is set up and fptp elections means votes in contested states and districts count for much more than if you're from a highly partisan area.