this post was submitted on 21 Aug 2023
50 points (100.0% liked)

Nature and Gardening

6648 readers
2 users here now

All things green, outdoors, and nature-y. Whether it's animals in their natural habitat, hiking trails and mountains, or planting a little garden for yourself (and everything in between), you can talk about it here.

See also our Environment community, which is focused on weather, climate, climate change, and stuff like that.

(It's not mandatory, but we also encourage providing a description of your image(s) for accessibility purposes! See here for a more detailed explanation and advice on how best to do this.)


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

NYT gift article expires in 30 days.

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/IEKbP

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] deft@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

tbh there needs to be a conversation about the honey industry.

while the food is definitely important, honey bees are not native to areas. they edge out natural pollinators solely for capitalist profit. it isn't the most destructive habit capitalism causes but honey bees should be raised in land they are native to.

[–] kozy138@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As far as sugar production for profit goes, it's way better than the process for high fructose corn syrup production.

And at the rate that insect populations are declining, any additional insects will help.

[–] primbin@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One thing to note, though, is that honey bees are likely a factor in declining native insect populations. Their ability to outcompete native species results in a direct decline in the populations and effectiveness of native pollinators in areas nearby where beekeeping is practiced.

I don't know much about hfcs production, though, so I'll have to look into that.

Sources: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2016.1641

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-41271-5

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Insect population declining is a symptom, the issue is that natural ecosystems are declining.

I assure you that is you plant natural wildflowers and you stop mowing your lawn the insect population and biodiversity in your area will explode in just a few months.

So I don't think adding more insects is the solution, if we give them the habitat the insect population can quickly grow back.

[–] DaSaw@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's any more reasonable to expect honey bees to be restricted to their "native lands" any more than cows, or wheat. But flowers will feed whatever happens along, and wildflowers will feed what tends to live in that area.

[–] mercurly@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

honey bees should be raised in land they are native to.

I just wish we could stop with the misinformation surrounding them. I wish we would protect native bees instead of worshipping invasives (in the US).

[–] master5o1@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

but honey bees should be raised in land they are native to.

Europe?