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[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It is literally to have a viable third party under First Past the Post. It boils down to Duverger's law. Or more broadly Arrow's Impossibility Theorem

We need to focus on the actual voting system before we can start generating and supporting Third Parties.

Specifically we need a cardinal voting system. It's literally the only way to gain viable third parties that are not just extensions of the major two.

Sadly it's too late to get voting reform on any more ballots this year.

But you can still get involved.

https://www.equal.vote/

[–] Th3BFG@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I know there is the Ranked Choice Voting concept which sounds appealing. I'll read on this too. Thank you for the information!

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ranked Choice is an Ordinal voting system that fails Arrow's Theorem.

In some rare cases, it can produce a result even worse than First Past the Post. There are a bunch of flaws in RCV, because it was invented before mathematical evaluation was as robust as it is these days.

Simulation, and some unfortunate real world examples, show that if you vote in and election with at least three somewhat viable candidates, and keep strategy in mind, you can rate your preferred candidate second and improve their chances of winning.

No voting system should be able to do this. RCV has more flaws in addition to this already game breaking one.

[–] Th3BFG@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

OK, Ill keep that in mind. I need to read more. Thank you for the education, I know it isn't your responsibility.