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[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

saw a headline the other day about the gov't tracking people on tor using Google ads

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I'm still not entirely convinced that tor is as protected as people think it is.

There's only something like 6,000 exit nodes. It really wouldn't be that much money for the government to run thousands of them. If you monitor enough exit nodes and enough relays, you can start to statistically tie connections back together with timing analysis.

I don't know this to be the case for sure but I can't imagine the government hasn't pushed towards breaking the security and identifiability of the tor network

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you read a lot of news, it's really clear Tor isn't protecting anyone from the FBI. It's about as effective as using limewire at this point. Which also, the reporting makes it pretty clear it's not effective to hide criminal acts in the least. But it's pretty great abusers think it's effective so they get caught.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If you read the news it's really clear people commit opsec mistakes - all it takes is one - and get caught.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The inciting thought of most criminal acts is ''they'll never catch me''. Which if you're as lucky as me, you'll know you'll get caught everytime, and they'll make an example of you. It's kept my nose clean a long time.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Shhh I want an excuse to not protect my privacy, it's hard

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 13 points 3 months ago

I've suspected Tor of being heavily compromised for a while now. It's already known that many onion sites are government honeypots, with sites being taken over rather frequently, sometimes without triggering the canary. While it's better than nothing in some situations, I don't think it can be relied upon for true anonymity anymore.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

I2P has more protection against this kind of analysis.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

It would be more effective if you spread the load between the 5+ eyes instead.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

It's not as protected as people think it is. This has popped up on headlines for years. It helps, but if someone really wants to find you on there, they can. It's just not as easy.

[–] Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] tilefan@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for pointing out, but how have things changed since then?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I assume Tor blocks third party cookies. Firefox (upstream) certainly added that feature.