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Author J.K. Rowling has fallen silent on her usually busy X (formerly Twitter) feed, after Olympic gold medalist boxer Imane Khelif filed a legal complaint in France for alleged cyber harassment over statements regarding her gender.

On August 9, lawyers for Khelif filed a lawsuit with a special unit of the public prosecutor's office in Paris, stemming from false statements that spread online about her gender after the Algerian boxer defeated Italy's Angela Carini in her first fight of the 2024 Olympic Games. Carini pulled out 46 seconds into the bout and told reporters afterwards that she had "never felt a punch like this."

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 189 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Only because she attacked a cis woman. No consequences from the years doing everything in her power to targetedly harass individual trans peolle, the community as a whole or publishing books about trans serial killers.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see her go quite, I hope she stays that way. But I'm bitter it wasn't a realization that her crusade was mysgonstic hatred, only that she was a zealot who accidently friendly fired.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 79 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This isn't friendly fire. TERFism is inherently white supremacist and Khelif was targeted for her race.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I abundetly agree that is correct. But I am doing my best to try to think of her personal viewpoint, in JK's mind she is defending women from men. Hell, her stupid books are a racist allegory for how evil racism is, but when she gets praised from literaly white supramcists and dictarors, she makes excuses for being the greater good.

It's only when from her twisted perspective, she (for the first time) attacked an "actual woman", that she is finally giving pause. JK thinks she is feminist even if all she has done in actuality is outright misogyny. Which is why I am so frustrated, she didn't wake up to what a monster she has been, just that she needs to be more careful in who she "righteously" attacks.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think Rowling is as capable of change as you do. I think Rowling still sees Khelif 100% as a male man, because she's black. And I think Rowling is viewing this as the woke lobby taking away all her money and making her live on the street for challenging them. I think this is making Rowling incredibly outraged, and she's only shut up out of fear. And that's good. I want Rowling to be angry and scared and powerless. Because I don't think anything in the world could ever convince her that trans women are women.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I miss trial by combat.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 0 points 4 months ago

in JK’s mind she is defending women from men

You could have made this claim once, and it been believable.

Had Rowling made even one...just one comment about the literal child rapist (whose victim was a 12-year-old girl) that competed at this Olympics...you might have been able to keep believing this.

But her absolute silence about an issue where an actual girl was traumatised by the actions of an actual man, and insistence on going to war against a woman who she's pretending is a man instead, completely removes any semblance of doubt there. Her goal is to delegitimise trans women. That's not just an instrumental goal, it is the terminal goal: the cruelty is the entire point.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget it's also inherently misogynistic and attacks cis women all the time anyways.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

I just had a great idea. You know how Rowling is always going on in the narration of the HP books about how X bad female character has "mannish hands"? Let's turn Rowling and her mannish hands into a meme just to fuck with her

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m not arguing, but how is TERFism white supremacy?

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

TERFism restricts feminism to a tightly defined and controlled ingroup. The criteria for determining who is a real woman, when employed by bigots, will inevitably come to describe the socially dominant form of femininity, which is white femininity. Black and Arab women like Khelif will always fail to pass the standards of white femininity, because they're not white. The standards are racist. And TERFs invariably pick racist standards, because the kind of people who feel the need to police womanhood to appeal to an imagined ideal are people who will end up doing that in more ways than one. And also, TERFs are always hanging out and allying with overly white supremacist groups, because Nazis are the only people who will put up with assholes like Rowling. That's why she's always taking photos with fascists.

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

only that she was a zealot who accidently friendly fired.

Bigotry is illogical, and will always 'friendly fire'. No one is ever safe. People have transvestigated Joanne Koanne Roanne and Andrew Tate. No one is ever safe.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago

tbf tho Tate is a little manlet. I am in disbelief that anyone takes their cues on traditional masculinity from him. Guy with a face like that, he should be preaching the virtues of open mindedness and tolerance. If he was, I'd respect his masculinity. But since he demands that men be judged for failing to embody masculinity, I'm happy to treat him as he wishes to be treated and conclude he is a tiny soyboy with a pathetic chin.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

It's the start, the lawsuit has more chance to win that way, and can pave a path for trans people to win cyberbullying lawsuits too