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[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wanna know at what point America was the greatest country in the world when he said we use to be. Excluding one set of ppl America pretty much sucked for everyone else that lived here since its creation

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

One could argue America was a straight white man utopium in the 20s. After the first World War America was the saviour of the western world. The economy was booming and the capitalist society we know today felt love opportunity and wealth.

But again, this was definitely not the case for everyone.

I think 'the greatest country' really rather depends on the metrics by which you judge these countries. It would stand to reason that the people in the video would see America as the greatest country by metric of wealth, power and freedom (for some). Skating over gender oppression, race oppression, poverty... For some people it would be better to be in America than anywhere else in the world.

And the 20s were not the only decade this was the case. The 50s had many of the same appeal for wealthy, straight white men. And the 80s. Since then it's been downhill.

On the other hand... I wouldn't wanna answer the question what is the greatest country in the world right now. As a European, I like to look at Scandinavian countries as a model for a great country. But I wouldn't really leave the Netherlands for Denmark.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

It's a pretty subjective question really. If you mean greatest country for rich white guys then the US probably qualifies as the best for a reasonable chunk of its history.

For everyone else, not so much.