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Actual poster from 1917 that made me laugh. A lot.

Also, those motherfuckers are measuring the weight of those balls in kilograms, aren't they?

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 60 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Americans really dislike learning and being inconvenienced.

it's worse than that-- we have gallons of milk, but liters of soda. we drive in mph, but run in 5K. science and medicine weights are grams, but recipes call for ounces. want to fix an american car--hope you have both metric and "standard" wrenches

more like we'd rather stay with the stupidness and inconvenience we know rather than change anything, no matter how much better it would be

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

want to fix an american car–hope you have both metric and “standard” wrenches

I will point out that with the singular and shining exception of lugnuts, at least this one has not been the case since at least the 1970's. All fasteners on current(ish) American cars are metric nowadays and have been for quite some time. I've never seen a single one that isn't on any car that's not old enough to qualify for historic plates.

This used to piss off the oldheads to no end back when I managed a hardware store because they would absolutely insist, sometimes literally screaming in my face about it, that their dang old good old boy red blooded American Ford that they just bought didn't have no Jap pinko metric bolts in it anywhere not nohow, and 100% of the time they were wrong. (This annoyed me only slightly less than the people who showed up needing a bolt, didn't know what it was, didn't bring the old one with them, and the only information they had was "I took it off with a 9/16 wrench." Hombre, the head size tells me absolutely nothing about the diameter, thread pitch, or length. Then they would claim that it's just a "standard" bolt, as if there's any such thing. Also, a 9/16" wrench will usually fairly easily remove a bolt with a 14mm head, so that really tells me nothing. Or 5/8" on 16mm. Etc.)

Harleys, however, take it as some kind of point of pride that they actually do use fractional inch fasteners everywhere.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

didn’t know what it was, didn’t bring the old one with them, and the only information they had was

LOL the library equivalent is "i'm looking for a book but don't remember the title or author, but it was about a woman who fell in love, and it had a red cover!" which describes a not-insignificant percentage of all books in existence

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That, and different editions and prints of the same book can and will have different covers.

[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Might even have different names:

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

The differential bolts on my ford 8.8" are 1/2". Also the lower intake manifold bolts on a gm 3.8l were 3/8" even though everything else was metric. I'm sure there's also oil drain plugs that are not metric.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

See also: the 9mm and 5 grams in my pockets

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LOL i'm sure the multiple units of measurement for ammo is worldwide-- thanks USA! but yea, drugs are always metric

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Dealers always know the approximate grams to ounces conversion, which coincidentally works out in their favor an extra ~1%.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We are used to 2 liter bottles, so we still use them. We run 5ks because its been a standard distance to run for a long time. Other countries also do similar things, old habits die hard.

We use metric for science and medicine because the benefits of metric are much more pronounced for those use cases.

Honestly, using both really isnt that hard. Its only really an inconvenience if you aren't already used to it. We aren't changing it because we're getting along just fine the way things are, and there are much bigger problems to be solved.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

for one thing, there will always be "bigger problems to solve," just like with getting rid of DST, which also needs to fucking die a horrible death already

for another thing, thank you for providing a perfect example of my last sentence

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

American are willing to change things, we just pick what to change, and we aren't being inconvenienced by this nearly enough to change it.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

thank you, again, for illustrating my point. again. care to say the same thing a third time? for the people who just aren't getting it?

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

By continuing to act like this you are preventing any actual conversation from taking place. You might as well just say "you're wrong, no I will not elaborate". If you're not interested in having a conversation then don't respond, no one is forcing you to do this.

If you would like to have a less sarcastic and rude discussion, I'll be here.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i made a point:

more like we’d rather stay with the stupidness and inconvenience we know rather than change anything, no matter how much better it would be

and you're agreeing with it. repeatedly. though i don't know what you think the "debate" here is. are you trying to get me to agree with "no, we shouldn't change to metric"? because that's not going to happen. but you can keep trying if that makes you feel better

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't care that you think we should switch to metric, you said that Americans aren't switching purely because they hate change, and they don't care about the potential benefits just because they hate change so damn much. This is what I've been arguing against. I honestly have no idea how you could have read all of that and come to the conclusion I'm arguing against the metric system. Every word of it is about why Americans don't think the switch is worth it.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every word of it is about why Americans don’t think the switch is worth it.

and your premise is flawed. lots of americans think the switch is worth it, and have thought that for over 100 years. so far i've ignored your "my opinion = america's opinion" fallacy, but this has to end at some point. so, think what you want. i concede nothing.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So you do know what I've been talking about, you just purposely ignored it because you think its invalid? You could not have possibly done a better job at demonstrating to me that you are arguing in bad faith.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

i haven't been arguing at all lol just observing that you're demonstrating my point

[–] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago