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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 52 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Which of the following attributes would you most want your new browser to have, and which would you want least?

Twice as slow as your current browser

Is that a joke?

[–] Liome@pawb.social 47 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Control question probably, to check if you actually read the questions.

[–] mke@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I forgot those exist and interpreted it as "Would you sacrifice performance for one of these features?"

Am I stupid?

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I also thought it was a feature vs performance question. How can it be used as a control question?

[–] mke@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

By overestimating users' intelligence... classic blunder, really. 🧐

I jest, I've no idea.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

Mozilla might be insane

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

That's how I treated it too. I took it at face value.

I have modern hardware so I don't care too much about browser performance. All browsers perform well on my hardware. Obviously some are more lightweight and optimised, but I have no doubts about my ability to comfortably browse the web on my hardware, so all the performance questions I tended to rank in the middle (ie not most or least important) as I don't tend to notice browser performance.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Makes sense. What about those who click that option as a joke? Maybe discount all other replies from that person because of that too?

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago
[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago

Or what if they don't click it by joke, but because they actually prefer a 2x slower browser over such a feature?

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

lol, yeah. 👍

I was doing a political poll just the other day and the third or fourth question was a color question like: “Which of the following is associated most with a ripe banana?”

Eh, how ripe are we talking?

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 1 points 4 months ago

I debated because I really disliked another option in there (I think it was split-screen for AI or something stupid) and it felt like it was designed to make me not rank something else I didn't like as least desired.

[–] Tacoma@feddit.org 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

For me that was together with

A privacy-respecting AI assistant that makes your browser smarter by learning how you use it

So I don't really care how slow the browser is, as long as it doesn't have an AI "assistant" that is monitoring my browser usage

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't mind an AI assistant, as long as it's fully local.

But why? If you want that, you can just have it outside of your browser. Or maybe get an extension that works with an AI assistant on your machine.

I honestly don't care either way about an AI assistant. I don't intend to use it, so I'd much rather their efforts be spent elsewhere.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why would you want that in a browser? We have LLMs you can run local.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can you let me have my own preferences? Am I allowed?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not at the cost of my experience. It should be a optional feature if anything

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

Agreed. If you don't want to use it it should just stay out of the way.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup, I stuck that as "least want." I already marked "2x faster performance" as "most want" on another question, so hopefully it all shakes out in the end.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You clearly missed the point about "privacy respecting." It will only share data with Meta, Google and the US government.

Oh, what a deal...

[–] prongs@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

It's an Inferred importance method, as other users have commented it is likely that there are some calibration metrics in there. MaxDiff is the name of the approach if you want to check out more.

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wait, I swear mine said twice as fast. Well I guess I got filtered then. Lol

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago

There were both

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 13 points 4 months ago
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Mozilla is weighting on the data. They found people love AI more than a slow browser.