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Imagine apartments built into what used to be department stores, (Oh, you're JC Penny 203? I'm at Sears 106). Get those old arcades up and running. Set up meal stations at the food court. Once people actually live there, stores will start to move back in.

If I'm unable to finish my life in my own home, that doesn't sound like a terrible option.

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[–] ____@infosec.pub 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Elsewhere, someone suggested that it would be necessary to take the rebuild down to the dirt to handle plumbing and the like for individual units, but I'm not sure I agree.

Generally there is significant excess ceiling height in these commercial spaces, no reason the floor couldn't be raised throughout the space to accommodate plumbing and the like in a way that's easily accessible for future maintenance. You still end up with 8' ceilings (or probably rather more) throughout.

Over the years, I've watched a number of retail chains and malls die, sometimes suddenly and sometimes slowly. It's continuously seemed like a huge waste to me, when conversion to residential space would be relatively easy, relatively affordable, could be funded by local gov or nonprofit, and would make a significant difference in net housing costs in a given area.

When 'traditional' residential developers are competing with that, and with the ability to slap down standard-sized (AKA easy) risers/walls/etc. within commercial spaces of defined sizes, a further reduction in local housing costs is likely.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Adding a load bearing floor sounds pricey. I'd go for industrial and have the pipes exposed.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Load bearing as in, structural? Isn't that the existing floor? Something built over the top wouldn't be load-bearing unless you're talking about any walls that would go up as well. It certainly wouldn't be holding up the ceiling or anything higher.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ahh, good point. Meant more it can handle furniture, people, etc. Doesn't that mean the walls are fixed though?

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

If you've got an open area like a department store, that's a lot of square footage that can be divided out. Walls can be built too, not uncommon at all in commercial construction I'm sure. And there are raised floor setups in data centers to make it easy to run cabling and stuff. If they can handle giant server racks, I'm sure a couch would be easy peasy.