this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2024
1601 points (99.3% liked)

News

23305 readers
3703 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 65 points 3 months ago (15 children)

My money is still on Harris to be the final candidate. Get ready.

[–] Corigan@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago (15 children)

I am all for a women president, but Harris is just a Hilary repeat ... Please dont.

AOC would be amazing but I know shes "too progressive"for the boomers... What ever the fuck that means

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (7 children)
[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The thought is that her years as a prosecutor will come back to bite her. Plus a lot of people seem to have a problem with her personality.

I haven't watched her enough to form an opinion but those are the takes I've heard most often.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (5 children)

A prosecutor who is anti marijuana and anti minority.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know much about her, but directly from the wiki:

The rate at which Harris's office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[76] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.[76]

It sounds like her position on weed is not exactly what people are painting it as. At least these comments make it seem much worse than it is according to the wiki.

EDIT:

According to this, she even supported a bill in 2019 to legalize marijuana at a federal level, tax it, and use that money to (according to this):

Create a community reinvestment fund to reinvest in communities most impacted by the failed War on Drugs and allow those funds to be invested in the following programs:

Job training;

Reentry services;

Expenses related to the expungement of convictions;

Public libraries;

Community centers;

Programs and opportunities dedicated to youth; and

Health education

I don't know if it's on purpose, but you are definitely spreading misinformation.

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Hmmm.. crickets

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

If that's the spin republicans will take on her, they'll alienate their own voters and push them democratic.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 3 months ago

She's a democrat so the average voter is totally incapable of identifying that they could be anything but pro minority and soft on crime.

It's like pointing out that republicans keep crashing the economy, doesn't matter, they're branding is still 'good for business'

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oof, that's not great; got an example?

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Apparently she changed her mind according to the sources responding to my comment.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago

I think this is an instance of people failing to think from a systems perspective rather than an individual perspective. Kamala Harris was a functionary of an oppressive system and chose the easy path of not challenging it from within. That in itself may not inspire confidence in her potential presidency, but it does not discount her completely. She is still an individual who has changed her views over the years in a way that suggests hope for her being a better president than she was an Attorney General.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because that is the talking point that the foreign propaganda machine has been pumping out for the last few months. You'll notice there were no comparisons to Hillary a year ago. Now it's all "Harris is a cop," and "Harris is Hillary 2.0". Ignore all of that bullshit. It's foreign trolls doing their job and muddying the waters.

[–] Redecco@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I feel like I heard that stuff during the 2020 primaries as well, but the spotlight has definitely shifted back on her so we'll be hearing all sorts of things.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Exactly. If it were a real issue, it would be important enough to talk about all the time. When it only comes up if she is in the spotlight, it's a disinformation campaign.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Why is she Hillary repeat?

They don't know. Watch... they won't have specific factual reasons, only vague generalizations. Betcha.

[–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Speaking, presentation, likability.

[–] Omega_Man@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

So well spoken female that people just don't like for some reason?

[–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
  1. Chosen because of her gender before her merit. Evidence: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/15/biden-woman-vice-president-131309

  2. She ran for president previously and lost terribly because people didn’t like her. She is not well spoken because clearly people didn’t resonate with her, women included.

  3. When she loses, and I assure you she will, it’s not because she’s a woman. It all comes down to her track record and how charismatic she is, both which are bad.

  4. Let’s not forget she backs Biden so things that the left is against, such as her and Biden sending bombs to Israel will hurt her terribly.

  5. I’m probably voting for her, but it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth stomaching it. I’m able to accept that I won’t have a perfect candidate but most Americans aren’t these days so it’s a loss for her, yeah.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

I do not like Hillary and I do not like Harris. I don't however agree with harris being a Hilary repeat, I think she has a way better shot than Biden did

[–] oyo@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Have you actually listened to her on the issues or do you just know what the media has been spouting? I was surprised to hear her very articulate and reasonable stances from her directly rather than through a progressive media filter. There's a mismatch.

[–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

To each their own, but when I watched her in the debate years back I only remember her as one of the people I explicitly didn't like lol. Whatever, there's some good points in this thread and I dearly hope they're right.

[–] iz_ok@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 3 months ago

I like AOC's passion but a lot of people believe she's too progressive. She's young and can probably be more beneficial to her constituents and the party where she is for a few more years.

Harris should have a good shot, just for name recognition, her stance on abortion, and being part of the incumbent administration. Maybe she's a more likable candidate then she was four years ago. The Democrats will have to give her a chance.

load more comments (11 replies)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Having the first US woman president would be cool and have a ~~first~~ woman vice-president as well, why not?

E: Whoops, you already had a first vp, Sorry, Americans.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yeah it would be cool but we're talking about the American voter

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago
[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Haven't you just had the first woman vice-president?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah, I forgot the US did that.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Running a woman for president is risky because of boomers, but the majority of them are voting Trump anyway. Running two women on the ticket I think would be a mistake. There are a lot of progressives that are still misogynist. As much as I'd love to see Harris/AOC I think they need to pick a man for VP.

load more comments (13 replies)