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[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bernie sanders with AOC as his VP pick

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Biden is too old but you want to pick Bernie? I love the guy and donated to his campaigns, but he is not the Biden replacement.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Old yes but still on his game, which is all that matters

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, but also no. The whole point of switching from Biden is to disarm the "too old attack."

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah traitors want to argue the rest of us don't want nazis

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, ultimately, I'm voting for whoever the democrats put on the ticket for that very reason. However, I would really like to see someone who has a chance of winning be on that ticket instead of just watching the train wreck happen in front of us.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i dont want someone that old either. unfortunately, he is most likely to beat trump. can't see harris winning cause she is a woman and a minority and this country is still very racist/sexist. i also predict biden would step down shortly after 2nd term. worst case of biden winning is he dies in office of old age

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Worst case of Biden is him losing like the polls indicate. Harris is not a suitable replacement either like you said. But there are plenty of others.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like? Everyone wants to say there are others but can never name one

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You're literally in a thread that started with a picture of names of others...

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You, "literally", don't understand that this is the disunity that gop and outside powers want and rellying on to put Trump back in power.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The disunity that can be solved by Biden dropping? The GOP loves running against Biden. He's an easy target.

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

So is Trump but that has not changed anything

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bernie is only 4 years older than trump. Tbh, they all should have retired years ago, but crying about age while supporting a senile geriatric is just as baseless as the rest of their grievances.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. But Trump is far more coherent than Biden. It's all lies, but they were coherent lies at the debate.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump has never been coherent, not once in his life.

Remember this?

“I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things. I know what I’m doing and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people and at the appropriate time I’ll tell you who the people are. But my primary consultant is myself and I have a good instinct for this stuff.”

— Donald Trump, March 16, 2016, after being asked who he consults with about foreign policy

Or this?

"My uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart. The Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you're a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it's true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that's why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my credentials all the time, because we're a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it's not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it's four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven't figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it's gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us."

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yet Biden was so bad that Trump was far more coherent than Biden was. That's how bad of a candidate Biden is.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I haven't actually watched the debate because that would mean having to watch trump who literally makes me angry with his ignorant, smug, arrogance, but I've been assuming that a lot of the criticism about Biden is propaganda, hyperbole, or a misunderstanding about his speech impediment. Granted, a speech impediment is a horrible quality for a world leader, for one because it can lead to situations like this, but it doesn't mean his mental competency is any less than if he didn't have one. Did you watch the debate? If so, what did you think, and also because apparently it matters more than anything else in the world now to most people, what is your political party? What I mean is that trumpers could be handed the best leader in the history of the universe, one who speaks as Shakespeare writes, and solves problems like Einstein, and still lob the same accusations that they're lobbing at Biden now.

Edited: typos

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fair point about not watching the debate because Trump pisses you off. I did watch the debate live. It's not hyperbole, Biden was that bad. It felt like watching Biden lose the race in real time. He couldn't form complete thoughts. I know he is normally a gaf machine, but this was different. It wasn't struggling to find the right word, it was struggling to find a thought. It honestly reminded me of when my Grandma was struggling with brain cancer and how she struggled to speak. It was excruciating to watch because I've liked what he had done as president. Him staying in would have ruined his legacy and potentially undone everything he has fought for if Trump beat him.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oof. Well thanks for the context. That's unfortunate. I'm not a huge fan of Biden, but he's been respectable, boring, and actually benefitted the American people during his presidency, all of which are qualities I appreciate in a president. That's another thing I hate about trump. He's so desperate for attention that he does ridiculous shit on a daily basis, multiple times per day, just to stay in the headlines. I don't want a celebrity hound for a president, I want a competent leader that quietly does their job.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I think you and I have very similar feelings about Biden. I donated to Bernie's campaign and wasn't happy when Biden won the primaries last go around. But overall, he did much better than I expected. His biggest blunders I think have been only supporting Ukraine enough to stay on their heels and not actually beat back the invasion and supporting Israel after they've shown they're either committing genocide or they're so incompetent they shouldn't be fighting a war. Also, he ignored the border for too long, but I think any democrat would have made that mistake as well.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's still sharp, and there's literally no one I trust more to do the job tbh.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago

You're kidding yourself if you think he's still sharp.

[–] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

I'm curious who Bernie would pick.