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All our servers and company laptops went down at pretty much the same time. Laptops have been bootlooping to blue screen of death. It's all very exciting, personally, as someone not responsible for fixing it.

Apparently caused by a bad CrowdStrike update.

Edit: now being told we (who almost all generally work from home) need to come into the office Monday as they can only apply the fix in-person. We'll see if that changes over the weekend...

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 115 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Yeah my plans of going to sleep last night were thoroughly dashed as every single windows server across every datacenter I manage between two countries all cried out at the same time lmao

[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 59 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I always wondered who even used windows server given how marginal its marketshare is. Now i know from the news.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Marginal? You must be joking. A vast amount of servers run on Windows Server. Where I work alone we have several hundred and many companies have a similar setup. Statista put the Windows Server OS market share over 70% in 2019. While I find it hard to believe it would be that high, it does clearly indicate it's most certainly not a marginal percentage.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm not getting an account on Statista, and I agree that its marketshare isn't "marginal" in practice, but something is up with those figures, since overwhelmingly internet hosted services are on top of Linux. Internal servers may be a bit different, but "servers" I'd expect to count internet servers...

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most servers aren't Internet-facing.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

There are a ton of Internet facing servers, vast majority of cloud instances, and every cloud provider except Microsoft (and their in house "windows" for azure hosting is somehow different, though they aren't public about it).

In terms of on premise servers, I'd even say the HPC groups may outnumber internal windows servers. While relatively fewer instances, they all represent racks and racks of servers, and that market is 100% Linux.

I know a couple of retailers and at least two game studios are keeping at scale windows a thing, but Linux mostly dominates my experience of large scale deployment in on premise scale out.

It just seems like Linux is just so likely for scenarios that also have lots of horizontal scaling, it is hard to imagine that despite that windows still being a majority share of the market when all is said and done, when it's usually deployed in smaller quantities in any given place.

[–] Pringles@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

It's stated in the synopsis, below where it says you need to pay for the article. Anyway, it might be true as the hosting servers themselves often host up to hundreds of Windows machines. But it really depends on what is measured and the method used, which we don't know because who the hell has a statista account anyway.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

since overwhelmingly internet hosted services are on top of Linux

This is a common misconception. Most internet hosted services are behind a Linux box, but that doesn’t mean those services actually run on Linux.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Well, I've seen some, but they usually don't have automatic updates and generally do not have access to the Internet.

[–] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 10 points 5 months ago

This is a crowdstrike issue specifically related to the falcon sensor. Happens to affect only windows hosts.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

It's only marginal for running custom code. Every large organization has at least a few of them running important out-of-the-box services.

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Not too long ago, a lot of Customer Relationship Management (CRM) software ran on MS SQL Server. Businesses made significant investments in software and training, and some of them don't have the technical, financial, or logistical resources to adapt - momentum keeps them using Windows Server.

For example, small businesses that are physically located in rural areas can't use cloud based services because rural internet is too slow and unreliable. Its not quite the case that there's no amount of money you can pay for a good internet connection in rural America, but last time I looked into it, Verizon wanted to charge me $20,000 per mile to run a fiber optic cable from the nearest town to my client's farm.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Almost everyone, because the Windows server market share isn’t marginal at all.

[–] Eril@feddit.org 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

My current company does and I hate it so much. Who even got that idea in the first place? Linux always dominated server-side stuff, no?

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

You should read the saga of when MS bought Hotmail. The work they had to do to be able to run it on Windows was incredible. It actually helped MS improve their server OS, and it still wasn't as performance when they switched over.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Yes, but the developers learned on Windows, so they wrote software for Windows.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

In university computer science, in the states, MS server was the main server OS that they taught my class during our education.

Microsoft loses money to let the universities and students use and learn MS server for free, or at least they did at the time. This had the effect of making a lot of fresh grad developers more comfortable with using MS server, and I'm sure it led to MS server being used in cases where there were better options.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, Linux doesn’t now nor has it ever dominated the server space.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How many coffee cups have you drank in the last 12 hours?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I work in a data center

I lost count

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What was Dracula doing in your data centre?

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Because he's Dracula. He's twelve million years old.

THE WORMS

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 3 points 5 months ago

Surely Dracula doesn't use windows.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I work in a datacenter, but no Windows. I slept so well.

Though a couple years back some ransomware that also impacted Linux ran through, but I got to sleep well because it only bit people with easily guessed root passwords. It bit a lot of other departments at the company though.

This time even the Windows folks were spared, because CrowdStrike wasn't the solution they infested themselves with (they use other providers, who I fully expect to screw up the same way one day).

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

There was a point where words lost all meaning and I think my heart was one continuous beat for a good hour.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did you feel a great disturbance in the force?

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Oh yeah I felt a great disturbance (900 alarms) in the force (Opsgenie)

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

How's it going, Obi-Wan?