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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 217 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

There would be 2 fewer extreme MAGA judges in supreme court.
The same level of MAGA corruption and disinformation would not have been possible.
January 6 would never have happened.
Trump would not have the same legitimacy and platform to constantly scream his MAGA hate message.
Trump would likely have been judged much sooner for the crimes that were revealed during his first campaign. So he might actually have been in prison by now.
The widespread MAGA treasonous behavior to favor Putin and Russia and undermine USA would probably not be a thing.

So since Trump has been THEE major driver of extremism and treason in USA for the past 8 years, I'd say no. USA would not be nearly as divided as it is now.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 101 points 5 days ago (2 children)

There would also be about a million less deaths in America since we would've had a competent president who wouldn't fumble such an easy fucking task.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago

Not so much that he was incompetent, as it was pure unfiltered corruption.

He was recorded behind closed doors agreeing that people should mask, and get vacinated, and make sure space between people is adhered to.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut, if covid kills in NYC so easily because it's condensed amount of people in a small space, and if all the major cities vote blue.....then that means covid will kill the democrat voters and mostly leave the republican voters unharmed because they all live on farms and such!

That was his thought process, verbally expressed. Not mine.

Problem is, democrat voters didn't fall for his bullshit. I remember one press conference where he would say things like "Covid will go away in the spring, it's all a hoax" and then a scientist studying the virus since conception IMMEDIATELY followed it up with "Covid is NOT a hoax. Treat it seriously, or you may die". Then Trump would say something like "We don't need businesses shut down, we need to get back to work." And immediately followed up by that same scientist saying "It's not wise to encourage people to engage in public activities at this time. We must continue the quarantine".

Basically Trump would spew some bullshit, and IMMEDIATELY be followed up with this scientist saying the exact opposite of what Trump said. All this while Trump is giving him a look of "WILL YOU SHUT UP??? YOU'RE FACT CHECKING MY BULLSHIT!!!"

I LOVE a good absurdist moment....but I prefer for the absurdity to be based in fiction. 3rd Rock From the Sun is amazing absurdist humor. John Lithgow is amazing in that role. However when the show ends, my country isn't on fire with 1 million people dead.

So, I see this as corruption rather than incompetence.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 31 points 5 days ago

Don't forget Trump dismantled the Obama era pandemic response program shortly after taking office. He had a game plan all laid out and he threw it away out of spite and vanity.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Stop! PLEASE!!! I can only get SO erect....