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Russian space control center in Crimea struck by Ukrainian ATACMS missiles
(www.telegraph.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2024
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I would guess this is likely to get Russia to dedicate more forces to protecting their nuclear capabilities because without that Putin knows he's fucked.
The more anti-missile and anti-air are dedicated to protecting nuclear triad infrastructure, the less is protecting other assets like HQs, supply depos, aircraft and other conventional combat systems.
dedicate more forces to protecting their nuclear capabilities
Are you hearing yourself? The nuclear capability is the protection. There's a reason that during the Cold War nobody was stupid enough to attack someone else's nuclear early warning radar. The entire principle of mutually assured destruction relies on both parties knowing what the other is NOT doing so they know that they don't need to respond.
A preemptive strike is still suicide even if it's done because early detection capabilities are reduced or lost. And a first strike against someone without early detection capabilities still isn't a guaranteed win when the subs are still hidden and the doomsday device is still armed.
The implication being that somebody wants to launch a nuclear strike on Russia.
Attacking a country's nuclear triad is cause for a nuclear retaliatory strike under all non-NFU doctrines. If Russia can't identify whether an incoming object is a nuclear strike, any no first use doctrine goes out the window.
This is pushing us straight towards nuclear war with our eyes closed.
How is that the implication when there are lots of other explanations, one even given above?
If the target costs more than the missile (including the opportunity cost), and/or the target is a high priority for repairs, it makes sense to target it. It doesn't need to be more complicated than that.
I guess the fear of nukes has waned since the end of the Cold War.
Y'all will literally sacrifice the entire world so long as Russia loses.
Or Russia could stop annexing sovereign shit.
Funny to read people carrying Russia's dirty pisswater, pretending to wring their hands in fear about a response to fucking aggression. We aren't happening to Russia, Russia is happening to us.
Like in school when you hit the bully back and get suspended.
"Warum tun menschen einem schlimme Dinge an? Weil man es zulässt."
Sometimes the only decision is dying kneeling or dying standing.
No matter how many times you repeat this Russia isn't going to stop the war. That's been obvious for two years to anyone with a functioning brain. The fact that psycho wasps want to turn this war into a nuclear holocaust is just incredible.
Russia could end it, but won't, so who is courting nuclear war?
The idiots attacking first strike detection infrastructure. Amazing this needs to be spelled out.
It doesn't need to be spelled out. You just keep misspelling it intentionally.
Attacking first strike detection isn't the provocation, it's the response. Amazing this needs to be spelled out, except we all know it doesn't because we all know you understand perfectly well.
The fact that you genuinely believe this really says all we need to know about your intellectual capacity.
Thank you! Have a good one.
Funny that you should bring that up, because Eastern Ukraine is ethnically and linguistically Russian-dominated, just like Crimea. Self-determination for me but not for thee?
Why does Western Ukraine get to dictate the sovereignty of Eastern Ukraine?
As a Russian speaking Ukrainian from eastern Ukraine, a sincere fuck you is sent your way.
Just because we were raised speaking russian doesn't mean any of this shit is ok.
We had this topic in our country as well as gadafi thought “ehh? In this country, they speak German French and Italian, so logically those parts of switzerland should belong to Italia, Germany, France.”
But german speaking swiss people don’t want to belong to Germany, Italian speaking Swiss people don’t want to belong to Italy and French speaking swiss people don’t want to belong to France.
It makes me sad and mad that there are so many people thinking in simple ways like this and think they are stable geniuses. Like, get yourself some culture, FFS.
And yet your neighbours evidently disagree, given the extent from which the Donbas and Luhansk militias successfully recruited from the population.
An anecdote does not disprove statistics.
You talking about those forcefully recruited after being blackmailed into accepting Russian passport or those who already had it before 2014 and were sent there after? Yes, sure, there are people who genuinely wanted those regions to be part of Russia. As there are Russians fighting on Ukraine’s side. Following your logic Ukraine or other “high moral” party should’ve run “special military operation” to help Russian Freedom Legion to overthrow Putin. Why not mentioning Crimea’s tatars in Russian army? Is it coz they were repressed, their property was taken and they were forcefully moved out of their native lands? Why their ethnicity is not that important? Can’t absorb Russian identity nationalism to the degree they blindly follow their tsar? Or better tell us if Russia is so pro-ethnicity independence then why Russia taking down those Dagestan rebels? Or not giving Siberia’s people independence? “That’s all western propaganda” you’ll say. Don’t bother.
I’m join my neighbor in request to you to fuck ff. Don’t make me mad and keep “your” imperialistic opinion for Russian Empire fan meetup. The only anecdote here is you
Well said, thank you. I decided not to feed the troll any more.
Which invasion mission was "self-determination" code for again?
Our eyes aren't closed. The ruling class wants it. The proles have been taught to want it - just go to any thread discussing Russia or China, you'll see calls to bomb Three Gorges Damb or just a broad "bomb the blyats" (actual quote). Our eyes aren't closed at all