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Should Climate Protesters Be Less Annoying? (newrepublic.com)
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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the idea is to wake up normal people. If protesters only annoy the rich then nothing changes because it’s easy for the rich to ignore a couple of protesters.

If you annoy regular people then hopefully more people wake up. It’s a lot harder to ignore regular people especially if a lot wake up.

We need everyone in this world to be pissed off, not just a few activists. The sooner everyone is pissed the less leverage rich people have to ignore it all.

[–] CurseBunny@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Also, publicity is a big factor. You pretty much guarantee some degree of media coverage when you do something like shut down a busy highway. I don't think people consider often enough how important even negative press is in spreading the message.

[–] Fallenwout@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their actions make me hate them, not sympathize with their cause.

[–] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then you never liked them to begin with and you were never going to sympathize with them anyways. If doing a completely harmless form of civil disobedience causes you to lose your marbles then you're not interested in fixing anything to begin with.

Colin Kaepernick literally just kneeled before games, that's it, that's literally all he did , and still people lost their marbles, but the people losing their marbles were Trump voters who never cared about BlackLivesMatter to begin with

This same thing happened during the Civil Rights Era and it's happened in other countries too

[–] legion02@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And he started kneeling after a military veteran told him that would be a respectable form of protest. Literally can't win.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

we don't owe terrible people anything. we shouldn't care what they think and focus on defeating them and changing the world without their permission, which we don't need and shouldn't be worried about obtaining.