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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

On the one hand the Nokia 3310's battery lasts a week. On the other hand the iPhone 15....

Just plug your car in when you're not using it like you'd charge your phone overnight. It's only a problem if you can't charge at home (due to on street parking and no charging facilities on that street) and you can't charge somewhere you usually take your car (eg a workplace).

[–] gimsy@feddit.it -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Nope,it's a problem in many other scenarios

If i ride to vacation to a country with no charging infrastucture, if I want to ride to the mountains where it is subzero and my range drops dramatically, if I go to a place where it's 38 deree celsius and I need AC my range is pretty much fucked up... (not to mention that close to remote places like cool beaches there is no charging station)

If I want to have a road trip... i suddenly becomes a planning issue

There are still so many things that are complicated by having a EV, and I don't need the extra complications

[–] sour@feddit.de 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So you agree that we should heavily invest in building EV charging infrastructure?

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 1 points 6 months ago

And flood loads of valleys to create massive hydro power stations? Norway's low density gives it plentry of cheap renewable electricity (per person). In my country we have loads of people living in valleys, so we'd probably not get away with building that much hydro generation capacity.

Although there's a whole area called the "lake district" that is literally asking for it.

[–] gimsy@feddit.it 1 points 6 months ago

We should slowly invest and push for transition, but the current status quo is for early adopters and enthusiasts IMO

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Dude....

Norway is incredibly sparsely populated and has an adoption rate of 80%+. We also have stupid cold winters, loads of fucking mountains and require AC in summer.
I've driven through Europe twice with no more than 2 minutes of planning in an app.

Your comment makes me think you have no experience with EV's at all and are spreding false claims.

There are literally two scenarios where an EV is not better than ICE (if purchased new today).

One is for people frequently traveling far beyond the cars range and the other is for people without access to AC charging at all.

And no, I'm not a EV lover/gasoline hater. I ride a motorcycle powered by dinosaur juice too. I just like having 400+ BHP and 700 Nm of torque in a car priced like a Toyota Avensis, and a full tank every single time I leave my driveway with said full tank costing me <$5.

You should want that too unless you belong to one of the two exeption groups above.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My issue with EVs isn't the EV itself, it's that they're all smart cars. Granted, most new ICE cars are being overladen with bull shit too so I think I'm just stuck with cars from the 2010s.

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is a perfectly reasonable argument.

Is it because of costly repairs down the line or potentially being spied on you dislike?

Personally I quite enjoy the newer features for safety and usage, but I get wanting stuff that is simpler to wrench on.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Both tbh. I also just don't like the usability and looks of everything being a screen. I really hate digital dashboards. The newer cars feel like they were designed to be disposable like a smart phone, where long term use isn't a consideration.

I have seen some services that convert ICE cars to EV, so I may just do that when my engine needs replaced

The reason I single out the 2010s is because that's when I could get a touch screen with car play, but still have HVAC controls as a button and no digital dashboards.