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what foss phone OS do you use and why? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 months ago by merompetehla@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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I was thinking about using graphene OS, but I've read some lemmy users dislike this OS due to perceived misleading advertising and the pixel 7a you're supposed to install graphene on because it's from google (an advertising company).

Another option would be lineage OS, but there is so much false information about this OS, namely compatible phones that simply don't work with this OS and no support.

what works for you? I want a phone with no google, that doesn't force me to use the manufacturer's ecosystem and that won't show the apps I don't want or need (on an asus I own you cannot neither get rid nor hide bloatware)

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[–] pedroapero@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Re-implementation means reverse-engineering and building new binaries. What's the point of MicroG if it is just downloading google binaries? An app with privileged access is different than a remote access trojan. The whole point of a sandbox is not to have the same access as the original app.

What you are saying doesn't make any sense.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago

Strong words here.

I couldnt find what is the correct definition of "reimplementation" but we can assume it either means "taking the binaries and bundling them in a different bundle" or "writing different code to do the same thing".

The whole point of a sandbox

What sandbox? Not the Android app sandbox, as microG (when I used it) needed to be installed as system app i.e. flashed to the system partition.

microG may isolate the binaries or whatever code it runs in some way, but not via the Android App sandbox.

Now GrapheneOS uses a privileged app that channels the calls of the unprivileged to the OS. This is also possible for microG, so it can run unprivileged too. DivestOS does that.

The concept of signature spoofing and more is poorly pretty flawed.

I would really like if a fully open source rewrite of the core services could just work, but these apps are written for Google, contain the official proprietary code anyways, and signature spoofing only works if you dont use many hardware security features.

GrapheneOS can be extremely secure when degoogled, but it cannot securely fake to be a Google Android. And neither can microG Android.

You would need to change the apps to do that.