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[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep. My brother had an AK with a super light trigger that I could bump fire, but it wasn't easy and still was a complete waste.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But with a bump stock, you can aim fairly easily and kill 61 people!

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you missed the point of the thread in your excitement. We are saying a bump stock is not even a requirement.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And you missed the point that the other methods have you spraying all over the place and then some.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

At 500yds with an AR, shooting in the general direction at a wide area is all you are doing anyway, bump stock or not. With a single shot, you might get the expected 1.5-2 MOA if you are exceptionally good. (That is a ~10 inch circle at 500yds.) Multiple shots? Maybe 50ft^2 area after the second and then rest are probably double that. The problem is recoil. While a proper stock helps, it's not a magical solution for accuracy regardless of how the rifle is mounted. Even .223/5.56 is going to have recoil, especially during rapid fire.

For me to get a consistent .25 MOA with my 25lb benchrest rifle takes a fuck ton of practice, lots of time between shots and self-loaded, custom and expensive cartridges that are tuned specifically for my barrel. (That would translate to accuracy of 1.25in at 500 yards.)

Look. I didn't want to get into this mess in this thread, but your perception of how these things work is inaccurate. I am not getting all hurr-durr-'murica-2A here as that is not the point and not my cup of tea anyway.

If you are going to discuss these things, at least do it with the correct information.