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The statement "Russia is a more reliable partner than the United States" was made well before the aggression, I think it's safe to say it doesn't hold today.
The other statement by JLM is "It is a matter of diplomacy rather than artillery fire" - I don't see how this is pro-russian.
The RN though, is literally funded by Russia. So if you want them beat (and you do), this unity is necessary.
LFI are hardly extremists. They're not revolutionaries, they're not communists, they're just socialists.
Do you have a more recent statement that goes the other way?
Here in Germany those tyep of people say "Frieden schaffen ohne Waffen!", meaning making peace without weapons. It's a pro Russia narrative that undermines Ukraine's sovereignty and its right to defend itself. The conditions for making peace are already known; Russia has to stop its aggressions and return to its internationally recognized borders. This isn't even debatable, but those people who scream for diplomacy over sending weapons think it is.
With pro Russia & anti EU stances I would very much categorize them as dangerous extremists. Especially with how important France is to the EU.
No, I don't have a more recent statement. Looks like I have some reading to do. LFI's stance on Europe has always been too vague for comfort to me, perhaps it's time to settle this.
It's not your job to go look for those statements either, they can search for more information themselves and report back with their findings
Absolutely, I meant some reading on the LFI's positioning about Europe, specifically. And perhaps JLM's own positioning within that, since he's not always in complete unison with the rest of the party. Wrt the statement from 2020, I consider it reasonable to say it doesn't apply today.
I literally already did report back with what I found. You're just making excuses at this point to push your narrative.
Why be so antagonizing, this is a discussion