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The Illinois State Supreme Court found a strict assault weapons ban passed after the Highland Park shooting to be constitutional in a ruling issued Friday.

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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

yes but everyone who wanted to smoke in the 80s and everyone who wants to smoke today does- but there are only less smokers and less smoke inside nowadays because it was legislated.

change can only come through attempting change

[–] doomer@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] HortiEastwood@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It actually is a pretty fair comparison.

[–] doomer@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I guess I should have explained my opinion. Fair enough.

Cigarettes are not reusable, are not continuously functional for a hundred years or more, and cannot end a life in a single muscle movement. This severely restricts situations in which they could potentially act analogously - they are too fundamentally different.

What makes it a good comparison in your view?

[–] HortiEastwood@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just the analogy that you can setup laws to change the user behavior.

[–] doomer@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Just to reiterate this, there is a difference between smoking the last cigarette you could legally purchase, and the last gun you could legally purchase: The gun sticks around afterward.

I agree to the change in behavior that it will lead to a decrease in sales on legal markets, which was the basis of my comment. Now, what change in user behavior - if any - do these laws cause that would result in the non-possession of currently possessed firearm? That's the only way the bans would be comparable.