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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 296 points 11 months ago (103 children)

Jesus, at this point over half the country will ban porn because of religious extremists who hate freedom. Fascism and anti free speech.

[–] qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago (72 children)

Age verification for pornography has something like a 70% approval rating. It’s not a religious extremism issue, it’s a “normies don’t want or care about their freedoms issue”.

[–] mountainCalledMonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Genuinely curious where you're getting these numbers. I can't seem to find any formal public opinion polls on the enacted or proposed bills

[–] qwamqwamqwam@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

There was a Politico article about this last week:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/08/age-law-online-porn-00110148

The public is also on her side. “You poll this, it’s like an 85-15 issue,” explained Jon Schweppe, the policy director for the socially conservative think tank American Principles Project. Age-verification for porn is not his think tank’s only priority, but when they poll it against other priorities in swing states, age-verification blows the rest out of the water, with 77 percent in support and 15 percent opposed.

Here’s a Pew survey suggesting that the majority of Americans consider porn harmful:

A large 70%-majority of Americans reject the idea that “nude pictures and X-rated videos on the internet provide harmless entertainment for those who enjoy it”; only 27% agree; in general, opinions about pornography have become slightly more conservative over the past 20 years. Currently 41% agree that “nude magazines and X-rated movies provide harmless entertainment for those who enjoy it,” while 53% disagree. The number saying such material is harmless has fluctuated, declining from 48% in 1987 to 41% in 1990 and then varying by no more than four percentage points thereafter. The pattern is more mixed for other values related to freedom of expression.

Note that trends in this space are getting more conservative, rather than less. This tracks with my experience with Gen Z.

Admittedly, I have not seen any polling about specific legislation. It hasn’t been long since these bills were passed, and I don’t know if it’s a priority for pollsters. But if nothing else, just look through the thread. Lemmy leans way further left that the general public, and even here most people’s problems with it are about execution rather than intent.

[–] NecroSocial@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

A lot of Gen-Z, of Gen-Y and Millennials are re-adopting 1950's prudishness. That has the potential to really be horrible for a generation or two before the repression sparks another sexual revolution.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

We call them Puriteens for a reason.

[–] EfficaciousSkink@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think as mainstream porn has become more extreme more people are viewing it as harmful.

[–] YaaAsantewaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 months ago

The porn 20 years ago was way more extreme, no idea what you're even talking about there

[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: oh, something that really changes how these stats are viewed. The poll was conducted solely by phone.

I do think it's worth noting that they specifically polled swing states. It's a bit different imo to address political stances in specifically swing states and to use that to judge the beliefs of society overall. I think it's also worth noting exactly how they phrased the questions. These answers also make me think that these aren't really swing states at all. I'm appalled by them.

  • Women’s Sports: 56 percent supported (33 percent opposed) laws to protect women’s sports at the K-12 and collegiate levels.

  • Sex Changes for Minors: 56 percent supported (31 percent opposed) laws banning puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and physical sex change surgeries for children.

  • Sexual Topics in Schools: 60 percent supported (34 percent opposed) laws banning instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity from kindergarten through third grade.

  • Parental Notification: 59 percent supported (30 percent opposed) laws requiring schools to notify parents if their child identifies in class as transgender.

  • Age Verification for Porn: 77 percent supported (15 percent opposed) laws requiring age verification for accessing online pornography. Reining in Big Tech: 50 percent supported (36 percent opposed) laws preventing censorship of political speech by Big Tech.

https://americanprinciplesproject.org/media/new-app-poll-swing-state-voters-strongly-oppose-transgender-agenda/

[–] Sooperstition@lemmy.one 1 points 10 months ago

This is not an objective or unbiased pollster: the American Principles Project is a far-right stack of dark money with some window dressing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Principles_Project

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago

I have a source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1365965/us-adults-support-online-age-verification-by-gender/

68% of people either Strongly or Somewhat support verification mechanisms for online content.

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