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Leaked Documents Reveal How Google Search Gatekeeps the Internet (gizmodo.com)
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[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 91 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We all need to stop using this as our default search engine

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (13 children)

What do you suggest? Because even Mozilla uses Google for its search.

[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Duck duck?

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Which is just bing with a few extra editorial changes that aren't really transparent.

[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What do you use?

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago

Only recently started using searngx. I would love to see more search engines implement their own indexing and ranking, instead of relying on other engines.

But I am aware that making a good search engine is hard. Even with all their flaws, google and Bing still have the best results, which is why most other engines rely on their results.

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 months ago

I also wanted to mention that DDG doesn't really say what editorial changes they make to the results. I would like to see more transparency.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Kagi... It's so good you forget Google.

And what do you mean "even mozilla"... There are money deals between these Google and mozilla. Google pays mozilla a lot of money to set Google as default search.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

It is so good that when I use Google on someone else's computer, I'm surprised at how bad Google has become.

[–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It's a paid service, so it'd be a bad default for a web browser. Not saying it's a bad search engine; saying that it's a bad search engine default for the every day folk who just installed a web browser.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago

I agree. I would recommend duckduckgo for a free search engine.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Hopefully they'll do a freemium service at some point like Proton does

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

https://searx.neocities.org/

Right click the address bar to add it to your search bar

[–] auzas_1337@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

I’ve been using Searx for a couple of weeks now. It seems to be working well.

[–] AncientMariner@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

As the default as it pays for web development. You can change this to DuckDuckGo in settings and I strongly recommend that you do.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you don't mind having to occasionally refresh the page due to search engine timeout, a public Searxng metasearch engine. I use one just to straight up bypass having to go to any specific search engine. Also allows me to see results from both gøøg|e and b*ng without having to go to either.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks sound interesting.

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

https://searx.space/ has a listing with responsetime for the sites.

i use www.gruble.de, has worked without issue for the last month or so.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

I really like startpage, but I'm pretty sure it's just Google with some tweaks

[–] BobaFett26@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Kagi.

[–] Zrybew@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Bruh, it asks for login. No thanks.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why don’t you google it? /s

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Lol absolutely it's the only way.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I'm using qwant as my default now. It does well for most searches, but for map related things I still use google.

[–] Napain@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

startpage, had the Best results for me in the last couple of months, much better then google. and the anonymous view feature is handy and neat

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

i'm using a mix of ddg startpage and occasionally yandex, and its been good so far.

if you have more good suggestions drop em here.

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org -2 points 3 months ago

Well since google is the whale, anything but google would work to reduce their market power.