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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago (36 children)

Six weeks is all it would take to undo years of brainwashing from every direction? I doubt it.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

My understanding is that juries in America dont really deliberate on a verdict or a sentence. Thats up to the judge.

Instead, I believe they're presented with all the facts and arguments, then determine based on that information whether or not the the prosecution's claims hold up.

So its more of a "based on the facts you have been presented with, do you think the defendant did X", rather than "should the defendant be punished for this crime?"

Most Trump supporters understand that he's a criminal, but believe that his actions are in service of the greater good. So in a situation like this the distinction between "do the facts line up" and "should he be punished" is an important one.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

I was on a jury in Texas in 2019 and we were tasked with both.

First part: Based on the facts you have been presented, do you think defendant did X?

If yes

Second part: You have determined that defendant did X. Now determine the punishment

That second part was by far the more difficult of the two

[–] CatOnTheChainWax@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What was the process like of determining the punishment? I didn't know that was a potential duty that juries could be tasked with.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

There's kinda like a second trial where they have friends and family of the defendant and victim come and tell you what s great guy he is or how much they miss the victim etc.

Then the judge lays out the range of possible punishments, including when parole might be available. We're not allowed to consider when parole might be available though.

Then we all go into the deliberation room and duke it out. When we were done, we go back into the court room and hand the judge the punishment which he then read as sentencing.

The punishment range given us was anything from two to ninety nine years or life, so basically, "do what you want you crazy jurors".

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