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[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Metal people are always like "nooo it's not all annoying noise and throaty growling, you just have to listen to X" and then X is all annoying noise and throaty growling.

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hold on a second!

I mean if you don't like metal then don't listen to it but metal has as much sub genres as the rest of the music has genres. Basically if you can think of sth there is probably a metal Version of it(idk why though)

If you want to upset metal heads then say you like Babymetal. Those japanese are crazy

[–] Leroy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you want to upset metal heads then say you like Babymetal. Those japanese are crazy

Wtf, thanks for bringing this band into my life

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

If I recall correctly, Rob zombie brought them on tour and caught a lot of shit for it. Lol

[–] Pinecone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If you like them you should also check out Band Maid as they have a more conventional sound.

[–] creation7758@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Idk what you're talking about. Babymetal is pretty good

[–] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a metalhead and I love Babymetal.

[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

but metal has as much sub genres as the rest of the music has genres.

That's because every metal band suffers from the delusion that their sound is novel and genre defining, when more likely, it's just a tiny variation on annoying noise and throaty growling.

[–] geno@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I do understand that growling is the part that often splits opinions and I won't act otherwise, but there's quite a lot of metal songs/bands with no growling.

I guess the conclusion that "metal is mostly just annoying noise and throaty growling" is related to what gets discussed online - in most cases the vocal part of metal fans are already in the deep end of the subgenres, so only the really heavy stuff gets mentioned. So I do understand where you're coming from, no real criticism here. :D

I guess the "less heavy" stuff is less often discussed, or just forgotten about when people are talking about "metal" as a whole:

  • As an example Nightwish is considered metal, and they have an opera singer: Nightwish - Ghost Love Score

  • Another random example, Jonathan Young's metal cover of Hellfire (from Disney's Notre Dame). Almost completely clean vocals, but also a bit "angry" sounding here and there.

  • Kardashev - Torchpassing is also one of my all-time favourites, and it's mostly clean vocals. I guess the genre of this song is questionable anyway, due to being a bit more "chill" in many parts of the song - but the faster parts are quite clearly metal. Growling is used like an "extra effect" a couple of times.

It's also perfectly fine to not enjoy any of these, just dropping them here as examples about metal songs which have a clear melody and clean vocals. :D


I do like my noise-filled growling too, though. This is one of the songs where I completely understand that vast majority of people would hate it, and anyone expecting otherwise would be delusional. I love it, but I also hate when some people act like everyone should enjoy stuff like this lmao.