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[–] ApfelstrudelWAKASAGI@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You would need a crazy low probability of a lunatic or a mass murderer being down the line to justify not to kill one person

Edit: Sum(2^n (1-p)^(n-1) p) ~ Sum(2^n p) for p small. So you'd need a p= (2×2^32 -2) ~ 1/(8 billion) chance of catching a psycho for expected values to be equal. I.e. there is only a single person tops who would decide to kill all on earth.

[–] ChrisGrantsBrownlow@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't even need a lunatic or mass murderer. As you say, the logical choice is to kill one person. For the next person, the logical choice is to kill two people, and so on.

[–] ApfelstrudelWAKASAGI@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does create the funny paradox where, up to a certain point, a rational utilitarian would choose to kill and a rational mass murderer trying to maximise deaths would choose to double it.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's always "double it" Anyone after 34 flips the kill all humans, that's their fault not yours

[–] ApfelstrudelWAKASAGI@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you care whose fault it is? You'd want to minimise human deaths, not win a blame game.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Doubling action forever minimizes human deaths.

Unless someone decide to hit kill. In that case, it's them doing it. I'm invalidating the argument that pre-empting imaginary future mass murders justifies killing one person today.

Idk which moral system you operate under, but I'm concerned with minimising human suffering. That implies hitting kill because chances of a mass murderer are too high not to. You also don't follow traffic laws to a t, but exercise caution because you don't really care whose fault it ends up being, you want to avoid bad outcomes (in this case the extinction of humankind).