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Vulnerabilities in Sogou Keyboard encryption expose keypresses to network eavesdropping.

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[–] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 275 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Alright China shills, you can stop changing the subject to how Google and the US are the "same".

The troops advanced into central parts of Beijing on the city's major thoroughfares in the early morning hours of 4 June and engaged in bloody clashes with demonstrators attempting to block them, in which many people – demonstrators, bystanders, and soldiers – were killed. Estimates of the death toll vary from several hundred to several thousand, with thousands more wounded.[15][16][17][18][19][20]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre

If you lived in China you'd likely not know about this, since people who talk about it go to prison.

Yeah the US is exactly like this so let's not talk about the Chinese government being awful to their citizens /s

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 110 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Simple solution is to block lemmygrad and hexbear in your app. That cuts down quite a few tankies and mainlaind Taiwan shills.

[–] Notorious_handholder@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Imagine being in Taiwan and having full access to information about China and the west and still shilling for China. Those types of people should be looking for a dominatrix, not a political philosophy...

[–] evilgiraffe666@ttrpg.network 55 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I think they might be using "mainland Taiwan" as a way of saying China - Taiwan is an island which China thinks is "theirs" for some reason.

"Yes, but history..." they will say.

And in history China used to be the opium export market of the Brits so by historic rules it has to be that again. I guess they'll say "but that's different".

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[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

There's a bunch of Taiwanese people who would welcome Chinese rule. I don't know why.. The CPC sucks my balls

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[–] Hype@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Been using lemmy for a few days and I am already feeling the need to do just that.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

How so? I've been using since the API blackout and not seen any content from either instance.

A must have on apps to be able to block/filter instances

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

If I understand correctly, hexbear is where the refugees ended up after Reddit banned r/ChapoTrapHouse.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

No one is saying Google massacred protestors, but if you're gonna be against keyboard apps spying on you it should be irrelevant who they're spying for. Criticizing shitty things American companies do doesn't make you a China shill and calling everyone who does it a China shill is intellectually dishonest.

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (65 children)

I mean, ill always say that China is worse than the US. But you can find plenty of examples of the US doing awful things to its people too.

Like the MOVE bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing

or The Tusla Massacre that involved law enforcement bombing black neighbourhoods https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre

Or any of the countless of times cops perpetrated mass violence against black people during the civil war era and cracked down harshly on protests.

Or when the did the same to anti-war protestors during the vietnam war.

Or the numerous times they experimented on their own citezens such as MK ultra, The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, or any of the dozens upon dozens of radiation experimentation, like when almost 1000 pregnant mothers were injected with radioactive iron, causing many miscarriages and cancers(and thats not the only time they injected pregnant mothers with radioctive material to see if it fucked up the baby), or when inserting radium rods up the nostrils of school children and then observing how their health declined, or when they dosed hundreds of inuit with radioactive iodine to see its affects on the thyroid.

Like I dont think this makes China's atrocities any more excusable, but the reverse is true to. The US really isnt much better than China.

[–] Stahlreck@feddit.ch 29 points 1 year ago

The US really isnt much better than China.

The world ain't just good or bad and there's various degrees of "bad". The fact that many US people can even talk about this stuff makes them already just ever so slightly better for many outsiders. This is how it is, neither country is "good" but they align more with western ideals than an authoritarian state which for many of us is bad by default...which it is of course. :)

[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As bad as those two linked incidents were, they weren't exactly government sanctioned. Police sanctioned, sure, and the government should do more to reign that shit in, but comparing them to Tiennamen is disingenuous at best.

The Chinese government hates letting its citizens have a voice.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I gave plenty of other examples that were government sanctioned, and the treatment of black people during civil rights was government sanctioned. And going back further you have slavery and the genocide of natives that were government sanctioned. Ofc its not a 1:1 parallel with tiennamen.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Don’t forget operation sea spray! Next time you laugh at someone talking about chemtrails remember the us government actually did chemtrails!

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