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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 57 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's still treating Trump different than most.

Of course it is.

If it's such a problem to put Trump in jail, why isn't it for any random person?

Because he is a former president of the United States who is currently running for re-election. This situation is unique in American history. As much as we may dislike these facts, they are true. The judge is in uncharted waters here, and needs to be careful to avoid anything that can be construed as evidence of bias against the defendant. This trial will be under scrutiny for as long as we have a country.

It’s not fair that most defendants do not have the essentially limitless resources of the entire conservative political machine at their disposal to pay for their legal woes, but it is the reality of the situation.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The judge is in uncharted waters here, and needs to be careful to avoid anything that can be construed as evidence of bias against the defendant.

And in so doing, hold a bias for the asshole.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The judge is biased on the side of Justice. Getting the case thrown out out of principle wouldn't help anyone but Trump.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And in so doing, hold a bias for the asshole.

Criminal court is intended to be biased towards the defendant. Hence the “beyond a reasonable doubt” burden of proof.

(Obviously that bias is often not upheld properly, and plenty of people are railroaded by the system into unjust convictions.)

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

The court itself might be, but the judge isn’t supposed to be.

They have procedures and guidelines, for everything involved here. Procedures and guidelines that aren’t supposed to take “ex president” into account.

Judges aren’t supposed to allow anyone to intimidate, threaten or otherwise manipulate the witnesses or jury.

Remember- the people of NY are one of the parties; and all parties are entitled to a fair trial.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

I would make a terrible judge, because I don’t see how this is uncharted territory. Sure, it’s unprecedented, but that doesn’t mean we don’t know what to do.

Our entire government is made up of citizens, that was the whole point in fighting a war to get rid of an unjust monarchy, ruling from afar.

Trump is a citizen, if he broke the law he needs to go to jail. If he breaks the law during the trial, he should receive the same punishment as any other citizen would. Doing anything else just means we have a 2 tier justice system.

The fact that he has fucked up 10 times and is still a free man is ridiculous. All the judge has done is show trump that he can do whatever he wants and face no repercussions. If you did something 10 times, and then someone gets mad the 11th, you wouldn’t say “sorry my bad” you’d say “why are you mad, I do this all the time”

This country is a joke